Retribution Paladins

Now i know to be fair when this server opened Retribution Paladins were weaker then they were in retail, so its understandable for them to get a few buffs and fixes. Unfortunately, as this server tends to do in every single expansion that I've ever played on you have continued to buff paladins to the point of being ridiculously overpowered. This is the 10th or so Battleground I've been in where a Retribution Paladin has Out-healed the other faction's healer. This is completely absurd as this was a MISTWEAVER MONK!!!! To make things even more infuriating this paladin out-damaged everyone else in the battleground by a large margin. Retribution was one of the WEAKEST dps classes in MOP but on this server they are out-dps-ing Boomkins, Hunters Warlocks and Warriors!?!?!?!?!?!? Give me a break! SOMEONE HAD TO SAY SOMETHING BECAUSE THIS HAS GOTTEN TO BE RIDICULOUS. This guy healed himself inside of his bubble from 20% to 100% in 1 heal instantly while i was fighting him 1v1 made me want to throw my mouse! Nerf their healing and dps by at LEAST 30% to be somewhat retail-like as you guys claim to be !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


signed everyone who doesn't play retribution paladin

Picture of him Out-healing the mistweaver monk: http://imgur.com/9mluPte
Picture of him outdamaging everyone : http://imgur.com/oL5s3uK

What a joke topic.
Yea its really hard to outheal a 495ilvl Heal, no Class can do this.... are you new to Mop.? Have you seen Affli,Boomy,WW Monks heals?
"by a large margin. "
Yea yea he did 5 Million Dmg with 1,2 Miilion healing. plus he had 2 Heals....
even with my 502ilvl WW Monk i alrdy had Bgs with 12 Million dmg and 5million Healing.

You found a Pala who can play his Class gz.
Again: what a joke topic. Should i search for my old war Screens, 500ilvl war with 18million dmg and 48kills, yea Wars really need a nerv much to overpower cause i say so.

Well if the healers suck a retri can outheal them, its normal. Especially if healers are focused (as it should be played). There are many factors. Ican see on your first screenshot that that paladin was 3d, a FERAL druid and ele shaman did way more heal. So that monk is lower ilvl or just got owned.
Boomkin have far more damage and healing btw. Please dont cry for nerf every time someone owns you, there are way more overpowered classes than paladin + if retri was op more people would play it.

@Luvenia - what does any of that have to do with how broken paladins are? As i said he healed 80% hp in 1 heal as retribution 1v1 which is what led me to type all of that or did you just completely disregard that? what you did with a warrior or your ww is irrelevant they are not healing 80% hp in 1 shot. Warrior has been nerfed many times and they are not out-healing mistweavers by any stretch so that is completely irrelevant.

@1ovecraft- Horde had a resto shaman and a resto druid. why are you talking about ferals and ele shamans healing for? If you bothered to even look at the screenshot he out-damaged and out-healed the boomkins so again irrelevant.......................

(s)he was likely in his holy spec gear forgetting to change to heal spec considering that (s)he did no damage. It's only a matter of mana regeneration which isn't much of a problem for a ret.

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Originally Posted by Dr0burnin

@Luvenia - what does any of that have to do with how broken paladins are? As i said he healed 80% hp in 1 heal as retribution 1v1 which is what led me to type all of that or did you just completely disregard that? what you did with a warrior or your ww is irrelevant they are not healing 80% hp in 1 shot. Warrior has been nerfed many times and they are not out-healing mistweavers by any stretch so that is completely irrelevant.

@1ovecraft- Horde had a resto shaman and a resto druid. why are you talking about ferals and ele shamans healing for? If you bothered to even look at the screenshot he out-damaged and out-healed the boomkins so again irrelevant.......................

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More HK paladin get more heal he do. His damage : healing ratio is like 5:1 and it is okay for the class.

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Originally Posted by SaphedaSera

(s)he was likely in his holy spec gear forgetting to change to heal spec considering that (s)he did no damage. It's only a matter of mana regeneration which isn't much of a problem for a ret.

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-_______- look at the second picture.. He led the entire battleground in damage done overall...and outhealed the Mistweaver monk.

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Originally Posted by kairxa

More HK paladin get more heal he do. His damage : healing ratio is like 5:1 and it is okay for the class.

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No one is arguing what the healing ratio damage to damage should be for Retribution. The problem is that they are both entirely too high for an MOP Retribution paladin. Like i said
he healed 80% in 1 heal inside of his bubble...so obviously it isnt lay on hands, and there is a bug that he and other paladins is exploting.

I thought you were referring to the top one. 1 mil damage healed is low. 5 million damage done is nothing special either. My Mistweaver has done 4 million damage done when there is extra healing. You aren't considering things like gear and the game was a blowout. Nor are you considering Frost DK vs. Arms vs. Ret vs WindWalker. Ret and windwalker rely more on healing while doing damage. Arms rely on a combination defensive stance/damage mitigation/ cc and FrostDK 's have the most mitigation. It's all personal preference and situational. None is better then the other on this server or on retail in 5.4.

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Originally Posted by SaphedaSera

I thought you were referring to the top one. 1 mil damage healed is low. 5 million damage done is nothing special either. My Mistweaver has done 4 million damage done when there is extra healing. You aren't considering things like gear and the game was a blowout. Nor are you considering Frost DK vs. Arms vs. Ret vs WindWalker. Ret and windwalker rely more on healing while doing damage. Arms rely on a combination defensive stance/damage mitigation/ cc and FrostDK 's have the most mitigation. It's all personal preference and situational. None is better then the other on this server or on retail in 5.4.

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you along with every other paladin on this server are f****** braindead. None of that has anything to do with what i typed. The pictures speaks for themselves. There are obvious serious broken spells on that class that need a HUGE nerf