Horde is loosing every bg

This topic about the bgs , because every time I'm joining in one I loose. Horde cant win a single bg and this is very annoying. I have opened this topic to share thoughts and ideas to how to fix the balance problem. Although its a tough question because most of the ppl with a lot of pvp exp are choosing the allience but this problem have to be solved.

I'm not interested in faction change. I want to win a bg on the horde side. So pls spare your time and my nerves and dont write flame comments.
Allience isnt just about pvp and horde isnt just about pve. This 2 sides were developed to match eachother with fair conditions in bgs.

P.S.: Alterac Valley should be scrapped out from the game cuz its the worst bg ever. Long annoying and boring with pve boss and it represent everything which is bad in pvp and in bg.

Horde does win BG's but i agree it happens very very rarely and when it does it is because either: 1. Horde has more geared people; 2. Horde has more healers; 3. Horde has more ranged DPS which have the advantage in let's say Alterac Valley. I suggest you queue with guildies or friends, try to make a premade. The downside of that is waiting with a premade in queue can take a long while compared to queueing up solo.

Other than that the removal of AV or crossfaction BG's would not be a rational decision, so suggestions as these just come of as whining from you.

Alliance wins like 80% of every battlegrounds (WG included) and I'm not making these numbers up.
It's a vicious cycle.... Alliance wins, gets better gear, and therefore wins again faster and easier....
I've seen some alliance guy reaching 150k honor a day. I'm struggling to get 30k.

I'm really considering moving to alliance because I can't stand playing 4 hours a day to do my daily BG quest.

Sometimes horde manages to win when starts stacking healers, yesterday i saw alterac valley with 9+ horde healers vs 2 from alliance side :P

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Originally Posted by droms0009

I'm really considering moving to alliance because I can't stand playing 4 hours a day to do my daily BG quest.

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Please stay horde, we don't need people who want to be carried.

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This 2 sides were developed to match eachother with fair conditions in bgs.

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Yeah thats why horde racials were 2x superior pvp wise for 2 expansions since vanilla.

losing*

Sorry.

On topic, stop PvPing on Lordaeron. It's a progression realm, not a PvP realm.

The issue is that PVP oriented players - i.e. the players generally more skilled at PVP that account for most of these victories - tend to align themselves with the Alliance, due to immensely more attractive PVP racials.

I don't know what could be done about this. This one's entirely on Blizzard. I suggest you find a PVP guild or friends you can make premades with.

One more problem is the phenomenom of bg heros. Bg heros are players who dont need honor anymore, but want to "pwn" other players (with less gear) in battlegrounds. If a bg hero sees he loses the battleground and his faction is getting stomped, he just leaves, since he doesnt need honor and cant farm easy kills. In our case the alliance bg heros stay motivated because they usually win the battlegrounds, whilte most horde bg heros wont queue anymore. This way there are more alliance bg heros and in a losing streak usually the players who really need the honor will remain. As soon as they have full honor gear, most dont wanna keep losing. Its a cycle that only could be overcome by using the crossfaction system of at-server, since players and their gear will get mixed every game. Wintergrasp is the same problem, but to fix this would be much harder.

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Originally Posted by whoohoo

One more problem is the phenomenom of bg heros. Bg heros are players who dont need honor anymore, but want to "pwn" other players (with less gear) in battlegrounds. If a bg hero sees he loses the battleground and his faction is getting stomped, he just leaves, since he doesnt need honor and cant farm easy kills. In our case the alliance bg heros stay motivated because they usually win the battlegrounds, whilte most horde bg heros wont queue anymore. This way there are more alliance bg heros and in a losing streak usually the players who really need the honor will remain. As soon as they have full honor gear, most dont wanna keep losing. Its a cycle that only could be overcome by using the crossfaction system of at-server, since players and their gear will get mixed every game. Wintergrasp is the same problem, but to fix this would be much harder.

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Alliance rogues are garbage mostly meanwhile horde rogues are playing over objects.
I'am really pisssed to travel mid-> north each 5 minutes just to kick another rogue assauling bunkers, meanwhile alliance rogues ambushing noobs on the field of strife. Same goes for AB flags.

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Originally Posted by taralej

losing*

Sorry.

On topic, stop PvPing on Lordaeron. It's a progression realm, not a PvP realm.

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So i guess i should quit now based on your post, I came here for 1x rates and to pvp mostly.

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Originally Posted by taralej

losing*

Sorry.

On topic, stop PvPing on Lordaeron. It's a progression realm, not a PvP realm.

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I disagree there is room for PvEers and PvPers. You can have both, those two aspects aren't mutually exclusive.

Any as for the topic, if you want to win start playing like you want to win. This mentally starts with you, not your faction.

I don't know if i would consider myself a "bg hero" like @whoohoo said, but i come to bg's to get my daily arena points since i don't need honnor anymore and my overcap is reaching the point where i soon will have all 5 honnor mounts (have all off-parts trinkets, tabards, battle standard etc. ). I began to notice a change in the queue times for bg's maybe because it's of enabled WG but it's no longer instant queue like before now you have to wait like 3-4 minutes, sometimes longer. Honestly i feel for Horde, though on the otherside their racials are superior in PvE, t+ the realm firsts or majority of them are held by the Horde.

this is nothing new, no matter what realm you play on horde loses majority of the bg's. doesn't help that every man, woman, child and their dog rolls human for the racial. best thing you can do is join a pvp guild and do premades, and hope you don't run into an ali premade.

I mean I have 75%+ win rate in WSG, AB and EotS and I am Horde...It's just AV that horde is loosing on regular basis.

@Awakelolz depends on how much games you play a day, because 75% win rates seems a bit much for Horde.

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Originally Posted by Awakelolz

I mean I have 75%+ win rate in WSG, AB and EotS and I am Horde...It's just AV that horde is loosing on regular basis.

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Have absolutely different stats on alliance.
WSG and AB mostly wins, but AV is a totl loss for alliance, at least was yesterday.

There is a belf female Dk who's running with 10 pocket healers 24/7, each time this mong's presence on BG turns bg for horde, cause low healers in alliance pugs.