Rub and PUG - Lil QQ Topic

Hello there fellow adventurers,

title says it - Im gonna cry a little bit... but not that much! PUGs a.k.a Publicly United Groups (PickUp Groups). Not that I'm too much serious about this issue, but I know that most of you will know what I'm talking about. Rub and PUGs, or, Pugs aint dogs cuz dogs are loyal jk.

We all know PUGs are bad. It's just a bunch of randoms trying to waste each others IDs, but from my perspective it's getting worse with every week. In this particular case I will be talking about Icecrown Horde side ICC pugs. It's always the same, 4/12 RO unless its semi-grun of a decent guild. People just don't give a damn. Some of them join just for mark, some just to try a DBW drop, and some are just not cappable of doing more. People join when they got less than hour before they gtg and most importantly they don't have patience at all. But they surely want to join some of that raid even tho they often don't even know mechanics of either bosses or their own classes. Also they join with char they don't mind getting saved with... I don't mind wasting an ID, but dam this is sad.

A lot of people will say: Join a guild. No. That's not what I'm talking about. I'm currently working on my 6th and 7th alt, and I dont have time each and every day to be there on time, better said, at specific time. Once or twice a week tops but that's it. When I'm on, I'm on, and I wanna raid.

I'm not really looking for any tips, advices or anything, because we all know where the problem(s) at and that there is nothing like a real solution for this. I just wanna spark up a discussion within the community, because I know that this is bothering a lot of people. Also I want to hear some of that funny stories from you guys about pugs, like mine this week: 1/12 hc pug or full 6k+ raid for 25nm (ikr), that RO's at DBS because leader goes afk and offline afterwards with ML (Regroup? JK).

And people please, dont hate the messenger carrying the message we all are familiar with. I want to hear your opinion on this note, not an expectable reaction from angry people. Discuss.

Sincerely, Another Random

I feel ur pain.
I also usually join pug raids because I wanna play the game when I feel like playing it. I dont like to have to log in on specific dates to raid with a guild. It makes wow feel like a job, u have to play when u dont even want to.

Guess main problem with pugs is that they dont feel any obligation towards the raid. It is normal nowadays that ppl just randomly leave the raid when they feel like it. Most ppl dont even bother to announce it in the raid chat, they just log off and never come back.
The absolute worst thing are really raid leaders that ninja items and im surprised how frequently that happens. Its crazy that leaders invest hours in forming a icc 25 hc pug raid just to destroy their own raid after DB when they ninja DBW or a hc mark.
I guess that shows how toxic our community is.

Im wondering if pug raids are better on lordaeron. Maybe ppl have more patient there because they invested more time in their char.

I'll let Vaas sum up my opinion on this and complains related to this...

http://i.imgur.com/FhF6Ows.jpg

Obnoxius, maybe this topic is finalleeh going to change it... JK, that would be even more naive :)

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Originally Posted by Jakkre

Im wondering if pug raids are better on lordaeron. Maybe ppl have more patient there because they invested more time in their char.

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See, I was also thinking about this. If so, I'd finish my char on Lord and maybe make some alt too. Thanks for contribution.