Felguard

link to the pet stat's at 80:
http://wowwiki.wikia.com/wiki/felgua...?oldid=2406889

Level Strength Agility Stamina Intellect Spirit Power Damage Armor
80 314 90 328 150 209 608 329-495 14033

but what we have currently on icecrown is:
Level Strength Agility Stamina Intellect Spirit Power Damage Armor
80 177 130 576 363 150 569 178-229 11760

How much felguard should hit on 30% icc buff with 6k gs+ (dfo and rs trinket)
Us- Kelthuzad retail server https://realmpop.com/us-kelthuzad.html
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kRTsKl0Y2-k
How I know this is 30% icc buff link here :http://www.wowhead.com/spell=73762/s...wrynn#comments
Strength of Wrynn was activated on 2/3/2010.
Strength of Wrynn was activated on 30/3/2010.
Strength of Wrynn was activated on 27/4/2010.
Strength of Wrynn was activated on 25/5/2010.
Strength of Wrynn was activated on 22/6/2010.
Strength of Wrynn was activated on 20/7/2010.

Why I'm writing here? Because on bugtracker are a lot of topics with felguard but all of them are ignoring so I wish maybe a community can help with that.

So, what exactly is your problem?
The 30% ICC buff applies correctly, and the Felguard DPS is fine.

Initial stat's on level 80 from felguard are bad and dps is not fine rofl never saw 5,6k crit with felguard on the icc many demo warlock are playing with imp because felguard dps is bad. Currently imp is doing 1200 + dps by himself on training dummy with imp demo spec and felguard with glyph is doing 400-500.

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Originally Posted by trackerone

Initial stat's on level 80 from felguard are bad and dps is not fine rofl never saw 5,6k crit with felguard on the icc many demo warlock are playing with imp because felguard dps is bad. Currently imp is doing 1200 + dps by himself on training dummy with imp demo spec and felguard with glyph is doing 400-500.

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As demo we are playing with felguard not because hes dps is better. He give as more spell power our pack is stronger and we do overall more dmg with it because of that. If that is retail video we can see that warlock`s pet there hits average about 2.2 - 2.5k and crit over 5k

Here is a video from yesterday where you can see that my pet normal hits are in range 1.1 - 1.5k and crits a bit over 3k. When i`m in Demo form pets dmg looks like the normal dmg from your video.Keep in mind that my warlock is close to BIS and this one from your video is not at least the weapon is not. All the pets seems that are not doing the dmg they have to do. Lets hope that they will fix it soon, since they did great job on WOTLK expansion this year .

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tw0ey-7eIHU

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Originally Posted by rc100

As demo we are playing with felguard not because hes dps is better. He give as more spell power our pack is stronger and we do overall more dmg with it because of that. If that is retail video we can see that warlock`s pet there hits average about 2.2 - 2.5k and crit over 5k

Here is a video from yesterday where you can see that my pet normal hits are in range 1.1 - 1.5k and crits a bit over 3k. When i`m in Demo form pets dmg looks like the normal dmg from your video.Keep in mind that my warlock is close to BIS and this one from your video is not at least the weapon is not. All the pets seems that are not doing the dmg they have to do. Lets hope that they will fix it soon, since they did great job on WOTLK expansion this year .

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tw0ey-7eIHU

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Yes you're right but its 25 spell power with blessing and overall the dps different is huge,I hope they can fix it too I think that's stats are the problem since felguard should have more attack power and he will scale better

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Originally Posted by trackerone

Yes you're right but its 25 spell power with blessing and overall the dps different is huge,I hope they can fix it too I think that's stats are the problem since felguard should have more attack power and he will scale better

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For me its more 33 spell power, not to say about master demonologist. Felguard gives 5% dmg increase to all type of damage, imp gives 5% dmg to fire and 5% fire crit until 35% on target HP our main damage comes from shadow spells we use only two fire spells, and one is only when we have molten core. If you use imp you will cut with 5% all shadow spells.

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Originally Posted by rc100

For me its more 33 spell power, not to say about master demonologist. Felguard gives 5% dmg increase to all type of damage, imp gives 5% dmg to fire and 5% fire crit until 35% on target HP our main damage comes from shadow spells we use only two fire spells, and one is only when we have molten core. If you use imp you will cut with 5% all shadow spells.

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You are right,but I calculate that my sb and corruption+curse of doom+shadow cleave on boss did about 30% dmg rest of dmg is fire so how much is 5% from 30% 1,5%,and I dare with imp you will get more dmg :P My imp is critting for 7-8k I have 6,1k gs ...

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Originally Posted by trackerone

You are right,but I calculate that my sb and corruption+curse of doom+shadow cleave on boss did about 30% dmg rest of dmg is fire so how much is 10% from 30% 3%,and I dare with imp you will get more dmg :P My imp is critting for 7-8k I have 6,1k gs ...

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Well mine are around 40-50% depend on the boss it go less around 35%, and depend on raid dps as well. The better raid dps lesser soul fires you will have.
Seems like you come to this conclusion use imp and you will see if its better or not.

I mean for me its 100% better I switch and I saw that I'm doing way more dps with 6k gs and imp I did 14,4k dps on icc 10 deathbringer and on 25 I did 15,4k dps so I think it's pretty good.I want to play with felguard but you see this guy on the video is geared propably worse than you or almost like you + you are orc so your pet have +5% dmg and orc racial is very powerfull and your felguard is hitting 3k crit ,with 20% melee attack speed aura felguard is hitting 1,6 per second right ? I hope they can fix it.

Is this fixed ?

No it's not fixed, propably because there is no proof from wowhead etc. with felguard stat's at 80 lvl , and they don't trust wowwiki site I guess,and I cant get a video with good resolution from 3.3.5a retail warlock which is showing a felguard stat's.....

Even tho there's no solid proof, i don't think anybody can deny the fact that felguard too little damage, making every demo lock play with an imp. I don't remember seeing any demolocks back on retail playing with an imp.. Even 3.3.5 simcraft or rawr indicates felguard should do more damage than it's doing right now.

Yea, but "felguard is doing too little damage" is not a valid report :),but yes it's truly sad.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VScZZZu9zrE retail - felguard dmg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0zfGUJlZMWY - in this one he have 4xt10 and about 200 spell power more than me but with already demonic pact buff when he get bonus from t10 he gets about 1200 normal hits and about 2500 crits
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FhT...ature=youtu.be - warmane felguard dmg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kRTsKl0Y2-k retail almost bis warlock
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NM9jnGLQby0&t warmane almost bis warlock

All of you miss the point of the Demo spec!
DEMO SUX FOR DPS! Accept it already! Demonology is a support spec and its used for the best raid buff in the game: Demonic Pact!

You dont get the point of this thread, this is a bug and it should be fixed asap, demo might be not the best dps, but that's not the point of the thread.