Where is this Hardcore element?!

Hey guys,

sorry but I am more than worry about the fact, that Karazhan seems way too easy.

I've just heard that the alliance guild "Empire of Eternity" already cleared the first two Bosses in Karazhan with 9 players and no heroic dungeon gear!
I mean, what is this? We left outland for a hardcore experience on Medivh and now this?
We don't want to equip our characters in Karazhan for Heroic Dungeons. We want to be forced to equip our characters in Heroic Dungeons to be able to clear Karazhan!


regards,

spasut


Edit: Maiden is down too now, first try.... really hardcore

Id like to see proof of actual kills on these bosses.

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Originally Posted by deacoder

Id like to see proof of actual kills on these bosses.

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For now I am trusting in the statements of the players who are just in this raid. Use /who Karazhan to whisper and ask them.
And since some guild mates know them and have them on their friendlist I don't see any reason, why they should lying to them.


Edit: look at the cloak, which drops from Moroes

http://armory.warmane.com/character/...Medivh/profile

http://i.imgur.com/78Y11zW.jpg

Its kinda sad if it stays this way. After Lordaeron i was looking for another hardcore Server without nerfed entcounters.

Didn't say you or they were lying, I just kinda found it far fetched so I wanted proof. but now that i can see this it's a pretty big disappointment.

I d be very interested in more specific information on what hardcore means on Medivh. If the raids can be cleared in the same speed as on Outland, this server poses no interest to me.
In the official announcment thread it was described as "Challenging hardcore raid content." (http://forum.warmane.com/showthread.php?t=354453). IF (I do not yet know the progress) Karazhan can be even halfway finished on the first day, it would not be my definition of challenging, especially considering the mediocre gear level involved.

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Originally Posted by Meroslol

I d be very interested in more specific information on what hardcore means on Medivh. If the raids can be cleared in the same speed as on Outland, this server poses no interest to me.
In the official announcment thread it was described as "Challenging hardcore raid content." (http://forum.warmane.com/showthread.php?t=354453). IF (I do not yet know the progress) Karazhan can be even halfway finished on the first day, it would not be my definition of challenging, especially considering the mediocre gear level involved.

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getting any info from warmane these days has been nearly impossible, esp when it comes to medivh.

I hope for a fast respond regarding this issue. On Lordaeron after the first Ony "Bug-ins" they took action almost immediately. A good step would be closing Kara to prevent "ez lootz" and investigating the issues that made Kara non challenging.

They are even streaming, at the Curator right now.

https://www.twitch.tv/hiddeh


Edit: Curator down in second try with 9 players and crap gear.

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Originally Posted by Serenaia

I hope for a fast respond regarding this issue. On Lordaeron after the first Ony "Bug-ins" they took action almost immediately. A good step would be closing Kara to prevent "ez lootz" and investigating the issues that made Kara non challenging.

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I think the first step in your investigation should be Kara was actually never challenging, pre or after nerf on retail

Then you never played on Retail - give me one example when 9 ppl with blue/green gear run through Kara. Kurator was unkillable w/o arkan pots prenerf. Get your facts straight m8.

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Originally Posted by newbfather666

I think the first step in your investigation should be Kara was actually never challenging, pre or after nerf on retail

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Karazhan is a raid and raids are declared to be hardcore on Medivh. This actually is everything but not a hardcore difficulty.

We didnt clear Karazhan with 9 players, greens and blues back in the days pre-nerf. It is just the wrong order, starting with Karazhan before Heroic Dungeons. Even newbfathers like you should be able to see our point there.

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Originally Posted by spasut

For now I am trusting in the statements of the players who are just in this raid. Use /who Karazhan to whisper and ask them.
And since some guild mates know them and have them on their friendlist I don't see any reason, why they should lying to them.


Edit: look at the cloak, which drops from Moroes

http://armory.warmane.com/character/...Medivh/profile

http://i.imgur.com/78Y11zW.jpg

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Why u dont link great full equipped other persons, only that boosted guy for attu by us ? Stop cry and and go exp.
Full with elixirs, flasks, cooking buffs
http://armory.warmane.com/character/...Medivh/profile

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Originally Posted by Lutero1992

Why u dont link great full equipped other persons, only that boosted guy for attu by us ? Stop cry and and go exp.
Full with elixirs, flasks, cooking buffs
http://armory.warmane.com/character/...Medivh/profile

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I linked this character to proof that they already had killed Moroes. not to show that his gear is garbage.

If u are skill capped in pve know tactics its no problem to do it with that gear, my guild kill moroes 9man on 3rd try, Curator also :P