Wintergrasp Multiboxing should be addressed.

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July 12, 2017
desupriest8

Wintergrasp Multiboxing should be addressed.

I understand it's within the rules to multibox just like retail but what goes on here is quite a bit asinine. I get that on retail the counter to multiboxing is the subscription fee and hardware requirements keeps it to a dull roar but since Warmane is free I feel it's being wholly abused.

Well within the rules doesn't necessarily mean within the spirit of the rules.

Wintergrasp is an exercise in frustration for anyone on Alliance as we're constantly facing the same multiboxer who takes it upon themselves to dominate WG. Now for my dollar this hurts both factions. When two multiboxers queue for WG in complete negates the WG experience for the Horde, many horde cannot get in because one player is taking the spot of 20-30 or more.

On the Alliance side of things we're basically left giving up at the first sight of the multiboxers, there's no counter to 30 flame dots, chain healing etc. Instead of having a fun semi-open world combat experience we're left trying to pilot siege machines that are instantly destroyed, being effectively one shot if we dare to get within range of the mb etc.

Only two parties benefit from this, the one or two people who are running the MB raids and Warmane if they're donating for all those alts, I'd like to specify I am not stating that claiming that WM is turning a blind eye to it. I am not ignorant enough to not realize that it's kind of a difficult situation to be in because the MBs are still valued members of this community. The larger community itself suffers.

I'd be complaining just as equally if the factions were reversed here as I'd most likely be sitting in queue only to find myself unable to enter because of the actions of one or two people.

I truly believe for the community that the needs of the many aren't being addressed here and it's insulting to the community to allow this sort of thing to continue unabated.

Thank you.

EDIT: I've been told that I'm risking a ban by posting this from pessimists believing I'm "insulting the staff". That's the furthest from the truth. I believe Warmanes run extremely well and professionally. I'm simply just asking to be heard as a member of this community and hoping consideration for the good of the many is given.
July 12, 2017
Swan93

Here here, I am not dontating anymore till this problem is fix. I left dalaran wow because the horde always outnumbered us in WG by a lot so they always won. It's really annoying to see the balance been taken away from warmane because of one person ruining it for everyone else.
July 12, 2017
dralanne11

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Originally Posted by desupriest8

I understand it's within the rules to multibox just like retail but what goes on here is quite a bit asinine. I get that on retail the counter to multiboxing is the subscription fee and hardware requirements keeps it to a dull roar but since Warmane is free I feel it's being wholly abused.

Well within the rules doesn't necessarily mean within the spirit of the rules.

Wintergrasp is an exercise in frustration for anyone on Alliance as we're constantly facing the same multiboxer who takes it upon themselves to dominate WG. Now for my dollar this hurts both factions. When two multiboxers queue for WG in complete negates the WG experience for the Horde, many horde cannot get in because one player is taking the spot of 20-30 or more.

On the Alliance side of things we're basically left giving up at the first sight of the multiboxers, there's no counter to 30 flame dots, chain healing etc. Instead of having a fun semi-open world combat experience we're left trying to pilot siege machines that are instantly destroyed, being effectively one shot if we dare to get within range of the mb etc.

Only two parties benefit from this, the one or two people who are running the MB raids and Warmane if they're donating for all those alts, I'd like to specify I am not stating that claiming that WM is turning a blind eye to it. I am not ignorant enough to not realize that it's kind of a difficult situation to be in because the MBs are still valued members of this community. The larger community itself suffers.

I'd be complaining just as equally if the factions were reversed here as I'd most likely be sitting in queue only to find myself unable to enter because of the actions of one or two people.

I truly believe for the community that the needs of the many aren't being addressed here and it's insulting to the community to allow this sort of thing to continue unabated.

Thank you.

EDIT: I've been told that I'm risking a ban by posting this from pessimists believing I'm "insulting the staff". That's the furthest from the truth. I believe Warmanes run extremely well and professionally. I'm simply just asking to be heard as a member of this community and hoping consideration for the good of the many is given.

okay lets be real with your statements.
if you que to wg 1min prior the fight, you shouldnt expect to get inside. when multiboxer is in que, obviously from15th min, basicly it balances the que as alliance tend to come with more numbers than horde. if you are dedicated to do wg, you should be dedicated to come earlyer to get inside.

as for damage output of multiboxers, if you want to counter premade, you counter it with another premade, randoms have no chance without coordination, that is why you lose. sure, you say we shot vehicles, yes it is true we 1shot vehicles with 50k hp, but the whole point is that you shouldnt run into boxer 1by1 allowing him to play 25v1 and aventually wiping 500players.

After each wintergrasp, hordes thank us for winning them voa, as it is the most point to wg anyway. it is obvious fact that if it wasint for out help, alliance would have control over voa nearly 24/7. so please...

BTW, wg is always full on alliance side, so even with us, its just few who complain about it.
July 13, 2017
TorchaDab

I'm not too sure what you're trying to say here. It seems as if you 're trying to make a point but it came out half baked. From my experience on the alliance side, 9/10 times mbxa is in WG. He is essentially impossible to kill by any means(due to 1200+ resil and 25+ rejuvenations). He one shots siege engines with 171k hp, and one shots 4 people at a time with chain lightning. Now, sometimes we manage to get the first walls down on each side, but once it bottle necks into the middle walls, we have literally no chance. Alliance hasnt had WG in 2 days now, what does that tell you?

I would love to hear a warmane staffers reasoning as to how this is allowed? Is it because money talks and the fact that he donated well over $10k gives him special privileges to ruin the way the game is supposed to be played? The whole argument that "retail allows it so it must be good/right" is a terrible argument. i would just like some insight as to how this is
July 13, 2017
Dralanne1

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Originally Posted by TorchaDab

I'm not too sure what you're trying to say here. It seems as if you 're trying to make a point but it came out half baked. From my experience on the alliance side, 9/10 times mbxa is in WG. He is essentially impossible to kill by any means(due to 1200+ resil and 25+ rejuvenations). He one shots siege engines with 171k hp, and one shots 4 people at a time with chain lightning. Now, sometimes we manage to get the first walls down on each side, but once it bottle necks into the middle walls, we have literally no chance. Alliance hasnt had WG in 2 days now, what does that tell you?

I would love to hear a warmane staffers reasoning as to how this is allowed? Is it because money talks and the fact that he donated well over $10k gives him special privileges to ruin the way the game is supposed to be played? The whole argument that "retail allows it so it must be good/right" is a terrible argument. i would just like some insight as to how this is

i am far from impossible to kill, especially in wg. usually if alliance atleast try to do something i die 2-3times each wg. i have 8rejuvs on me at most and my resil is more than you think.
i never 1shotted a vehicle with more than 100k hp, as even my lava burst does abit less than 100k. thats with FS applyed.
as for killing 4 from 1 CL, its not right at all. at best scenario i could kill 3, but that happens like never, i usually kill 2 players, 3rd survives.

As for downing walls, you never manage to down all 4 outer sided walls, thats why you lose. you down 2sides in middle wich is basicly equals to 1 side as i easely run thru one to another. as i said above, you lose becouse you let me breathe in there easely, you dont push at once.
As example i can take last wg, you downed 2 sides of middle, and you were pushing 1 side, enetering 1by 1 thru gate, making it super easy for me, then pushing another side, again bit by bit. i can assure you, you will never win wg back this way.
there are countless cases where i lost wintergrasp's defense even with 2 or 3 boxers in it, its all about what alliance can do.

Who are you to judge how this game is supposed to be played?
July 13, 2017
Deathsmaster

The only thing you're likely to see from staff is a thread closure. I'd agree to the point that sometimes going against a boxer is frustrating, however its not game breaking, and no one camps WG all hours of the day.

P.S You're wrong about ally not having WG, I saw them have it yesterday. Prolly had it today as well, I just wasn't online to see it.
July 13, 2017
Mercy
We have "addressed" the topic of multiboxing already. MANY times. So many times, in fact, that it has become rather quite annoying for us to deal with it. And no, just because people annoy us about the topic doesn't mean we're going to change our minds. Doesn't work like that. Instead, we are far more likely to suspend whoever is being annoying about it. You may have negative opinions about it, but to us, it is on a similar level to complaining about someone who donated a full set of gear because you feel it's unfair.

Please read the forum rules before posting further.
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#15: Complaints about Multi-boxing -- Hostility towards the server or other members due to the subject of multi-boxing is considered inappropriate. It is an allowed and supported play-style of this game, and the mistreatment of others for it is forbidden. Moderation action taken will depend upon the severity of the action and if the member has a history of offenses.
Source: http://forum.warmane.com/showthread.php?t=301141