a lesson for warmane staff

well, i didnt know where to post this, so im posting this here since it will include a few sugetions.

1st of all, i want to remark a few things about the EVENT warmane staff implemented. events are GREAT if done right, but when they are done wrong (as in this case) they can backfire in an amazing way.

this event has taken the absolute WORST of the server. ninjaing, stealing, scamming, insulting, hating, racism... the list goes on..

the reason for this is the WAY in the event work. you members of the staff made it so only a few places at once get the invasion, with only a few spots on each place and 15 min respawn on each spot. that leaves the server with 16, maybe 20 spots (enough for, at max, 800 players) for the entire server (more than 12000)

this leads to raid groups trying to steal the spots to one another, ninja pulling and, as a result, insulting each other. everyone wants to be part of the event, but when less than 10% of the server can participate at the same time, it gets annoying...

a few sugestions for future events (since its obvious you're not changing it now):

1st: do it in a custom map where only a raid or party can be. that way you eliminate the competition for the spot, thus the ninjaing and therefore the hatred.
2nd: do it so everyone who wants to participate can do it AT THE SAME TIME. no more "just a few spots". make it so there are spots for everyone, if you dont make a separate map (like 2016-2017 event) then make the invasions happen on every part of the world instead of just 4 zones.
3rd: since 40 man raid groups tend to be messy, maybe implement a 5 man party event variable so those who prefer to be with friends also have that posibility.

again, events are great, and its amazing all the work you guys (the staff) have done, but you can allways improve, and there you have a few ways in which you can.

hope to see more events!

The event mobs are spawned in the world to create world pvp. Why else would they do it? Do you really want EVERYONE to have access to unlimited emblems of frost? That would be imbalanced as heck. They kept a "go and earn it" attitude with the events. And I think it's nice.

When everyone has the good gear you got. Your gear doesn't feel special anymore.

i dont mean everyone to get free eofs (in fact, you coudl remove the eofs at all!) what i mean is that, if you want world pvp, fine, make it the same as last year where you had to FIGHT to get to the teleport NPC. having to fight for the NPC'S that drop the loot only causes trouble since you cant fight your same faction.

Being able to kill the event elites = free EOFs. Not everyone is supposed to be able to kill them. That's the whole point. You gotta pvp and fight for tag in order to get that advantage. If Warmane wanted to give everyone free EOFs they would just spawn them in for everyone. But that's not the case. You said I want everyone who wants to participate to be able to do so. And they are already, they are already participating in world pvp, tagging the mobs before the other raid does. It's already happening. It's all part of the event. It's all to bring people together in one way or another and make it something worth remembering. It's not about getting free loot. Also if they remove EOF will you still farm elites for no reason? Come on friend you're not fooling anybody here. You are angry because to get the tag on the free EOF mobs you need to compete against other players. And that's how the game is meant to be played. If you don't like it don't participate.

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Originally Posted by crafter1992

The event mobs are spawned in the world to create world pvp.

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It's not problem in WPvP.

bakkhos16 is absolutely right in everything he stated. This "invasion event" has brought a lot of different hatreds in time of special human event, Xmas...

This event still have a chance to be better.
If I would rework this event in my way: *DON'T READ AND WASTE YOUR TIME IF YOU DON'T WANT TO SEE MY OPINION/IDEA*

Whole Eastern Kingdoms and Kalimdor contested territories would be covered by those Grinch's lieutenants. Why contested territories?
- For the WPvP.
Why only EK and Kalimdor?
- No flying mounts, longer time required from point A to point B, also, better WPvP.
They wouldn't be grouped. Why? Less camping, stealing and ninjas.
They have 20+ minutes respawn and they are neutral. Due to new characters who just level up regularly.
They have big health pool, they are slowed for 35% and low physical damage. So it could be soloable by casters and melees. But it would take a lot of time 'cause large health pool, so people will eventually form many little groups of friends and also invite few random players, less players in raid or group, better control over them and less rate of social toxicity.
One Grinch's lieutenant would drop 1-2 frosts. (about some special mount, pet, I don't want to discuss, just remain the same.) If we make 30 lieutenants per zone, that's 30-60 frosts from that zone. Considering on the zones and their size and difference. This should take a lot of time to clear soloing, because fighting should take more than 5 minutes with BiS gear and also traveling from one to another should be minimum 1 minute. Also, other players will clear other lieutenants and you will need to wait 20+ minutes to respawn. So people will probably form a lot of groups and maybe raids for faster clearing. But there shouldn't be any problem 'cause there would be a lot of free zones to clear at same time. I was rough with this math, but what I want to say it, no extremely easy frosts!
Person who did damage and who is near killing a mob is eligible for loot in that raid or party.
Dunno what to say more, this was just quickly from my head. Take it on consideration.

Big thanks for the events, and as you already know, everything could be better and worse.
Happy holidays and have fun.

So it is because of you guys crying that they removed the method of farming mobs, now people will wait 15 mins spamming **** lol. This event idea doesn't work great with a high population realm.

they removed the eofs from adds because we as a community found a way to "cheat" on what the event was supoused to be (killing the boss). and its not because of this thread or any other, its because of the ingame actions and, of course, the immense ammount of eofs you could farm if nobody bothered you (which unless you had a multiboxer in your group, was near impossible)

People already farmed enough eofs to get 2 sets of t10. The damage is done lol. Should have taken this step to fix it a long time back, like hours after people started "farming"

This event: +10% cancer (Debuff, not dispellable)

Easy.

They should make PTR for every change like this. Custom or not, content.

I agree with Mirda's suggestion especially to move the Event onto The Eastern Kingdoms and Kalimdor but i don't agree with the fact to make the mobs weaker in dmg, in fact, they should even make them stronger Elites in order to force us to make groups 'cuz they wouldn't be solo-able (maybe but barely). Besides that, all the places on which the Event will take place are during the Event a "Free for All" zone making anyone a hostile upon entering that certain place/zone. That will allow us to have the complete challenge on who's gonna dominate the place, no matter the faction. It will also force us to make even raids which is great. Let's hope Warmane implements this suggestion ASAP. Thanks for listening and understanding.

how bout ya'll shut up and stop moaning about a free ****ing event on a free server. i honestly hope next year they don't do a single damn event due to you whiny ****s

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Originally Posted by Skuddy

how bout ya'll shut up and stop moaning about a free ****ing event on a free server. i honestly hope next year they don't do a single damn event due to you whiny ****s

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Wtf is wrong with you? Why are you so damn salty and triggered by some honest and nice suggestions? Warmane gave us the opportunity to give them suggestions and advices which will lead to improvements of Warmane Servers what they actually even expect from us and appreciate. If you have some life problems and issues don't share them with us, go and solve them. Unless you're a ADHD kid or mentally ill then I'm completely understanding.

Everything about this event was done wrong. I see two much better scenarios of thins:

1. For PvE: Make ALL raids (especially vanilla and TBC) drop EOF, but buff bosses to be challenging. Leave WOTLK raids same, but make them drop EOF in increasing way (For example Flame Leviathan, Ignis, Razorscale XT drop x1; Iron Council, Kologarn, Auriaya x2, etc).
This would have made players actually do old content, and not just FOS/POS farm into TOC and ICC.
Or if you hate the EOF idea, just put additional loot to those bosses, as in satchels with goodies (gems, orbs, enchanting mats, flasks, patterns, even primordials with low drop)

2. For PvP: Spawn completely RANDOM spots, not just 6 recurring spots. And make them drop satchels with random mats (same as above). Also, make everyone hostile in that zone, unless they're in your raid, so it wouldn't be pointless to be in that zone if your faction already has that a raid in that zone.
Turn PvP off for low level players for the event.

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Originally Posted by IamSuLo

Wtf is wrong with you? Why are you so damn salty and triggered by some honest and nice suggestions? Warmane gave us the opportunity to give them suggestions and advices which will lead to improvements of Warmane Servers what they actually even expect from us and appreciate. If you have some life problems and issues don't share them with us, go and solve them. Unless you're a ADHD kid or mentally ill then I'm completely understanding.

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it's the same **** everytime warmane does something they don't have to do. people ***** and whine and moan that it wasn't up to their standards, and assume they know how to make it better. been the same ever since the molten days, and it's downright ****ing annoying.

and this thread wasn't made to show nice and honest suggestions. the title alone shows it was meant to tell warmane they ****ed up.