What's the Ninja Looting server policy on Uncommon items?

As the title suggest, I started this thread to question how does the Ninja Looting policy of Warmane servers apply to Uncommon (green) items. Recently, a person in a RDF needed an uncommon item in a dungeon, and upon being questioned they openly stated they did so with the intention of selling said item for gold. I reported said person to a GM, but the answer I got was:

"Hello,

Considering this is an Uncommon item I do not feel like this is ban worthy alone. If he does it to a rare or epic item then a ban can be issued

Kind regards,
etc etc"


This, thus made me wonder - does it mean I can need indiscriminately on any Uncommon item I see in heroic RDFs without risking a ban for ninja looting? Or that it is okay only as long as it's just one Uncommon item needed? In order to get an answer, I sent another ticket, with a SS of the previous ticket exchange and a pretty clear question: "is it okay, then, to need uncommon items to sell/DE?" However, the GM simply replied with the usual "we will investigate the player/s involved", and said person is still unbanned as far as I can see on my friend list. This is why I decided to bring this matter to the forums.

So, can a mod, if not a GM, come here and please give me a clear cut answer on this issue? I mean, I feel like a fool for restraining myself from needing on green items which others can need to their own pleasure even if just for gold, but at the same time I want to be sure I'm not risking a ban for doing so.

P.S.: I didn't attach screenshots of the player's "ninjaing" and of the GMs' tickets in order to preserve their (as well as my) identity, but if a mod asks me I can send them via PM or wherever they ask me to.

The assumed default is that the Need option for gear states that you intend to equip and use it - gold or [profit from] professions is greedy and belongs in the greed rolls; DE is just a stream-lined greed roll and carries the same weight. Unless the group has discussed and agreed upon a different custom set of rules for these functions and everyone knows about it. Needing on an item that should be Greeded is ninjaing, regardless of the quality of item.

However, most people don't actually give a ****. It's silly and they should definitely be scolded and warned, but not banned for a first report.
I don't suggest doing it consistently because it pisses people off when they don't get a fair roll - just as it did you. If enough people report you for something even as stupid as ninjaing greens they'll probably still ban you because you're obviously cancerous and killing the majority's buzz. Don't be a jerk about it.

Since this is an green (ucommon item) I feel opening a ticket for such item is just a waste of gm's time.
Like literally any boe blue item is better then green.
And issueing a ban for the green item seems little stretched , dont ya think?
Imagine if people started rolling on gray items, and same occurred.
How far do we draw the line? Will you you report ninjaing consumables? cloth?

Makes no sense, any ban for ninjaing should be issued for only an epic/legendary item.

Rest makes joke.

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Originally Posted by Peregrine

Since this is an green (ucommon item) I feel opening a ticket for such item is just a waste of gm's time.
Like literally any boe blue item is better then green.
And issueing a ban for the green item seems little stretched , dont ya think?
Imagine if people started rolling on gray items, and same occurred.
How far do we draw the line? Will you you report ninjaing consumables? cloth?

Makes no sense, any ban for ninjaing should be issued for only an epic/legendary item.

Rest makes joke.

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For some twink, green items can be BIS



A thief is a thief. Doesn't matter if they stole 5 dollars or 500 dollars, they're still un trustworthy and deserve something to deter the bad behavior.

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Originally Posted by Peregrine

Since this is an green (ucommon item) I feel opening a ticket for such item is just a waste of gm's time.
Like literally any boe blue item is better then green.
And issueing a ban for the green item seems little stretched , dont ya think?
Imagine if people started rolling on gray items, and same occurred.
How far do we draw the line? Will you you report ninjaing consumables? cloth?

Makes no sense, any ban for ninjaing should be issued for only an epic/legendary item.

Rest makes joke.

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I honestly would draw the line at Uncommon if you ask me, since that's where the game itself draws the line by default asking you Need or Greed. But if the policy of Warmane puts the bar at Rare or higher, they should be clear about it. If it is, then people should be banned for it. If it is not, then people should be told that they can do it so they know they're not risking anything.

This kind of ambiguity is not beneficial to everyone except cheaters.

The thing is, when it comes to Dungeons, the items aren't too hard to get since while leveling, you repeat the same dungeons over and over again. When it comes to raid, where Ninja looting is strictly dealt with, Uncommon items are pretty worthless. Hence, they aren't given much importance overall.

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Originally Posted by OzhDomoshGroth

The thing is, when it comes to Dungeons, the items aren't too hard to get since while leveling, you repeat the same dungeons over and over again. When it comes to raid, where Ninja looting is strictly dealt with, Uncommon items are pretty worthless. Hence, they aren't given much importance overall.

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You could say the same about any dungeon item, by this logic, and yet I know for a fact that people do get banned for ninja looting in dungeons - even on something such as Blue BoEs. So, where do you draw the line? This is why I would like some staff member to step in and say (in unambiguous terms) where the line is.

Bump - still waiting for an official reply of some kind

Try making a post in the Ask The Staff section.

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Originally Posted by Zelekhut

Bump - still waiting for an official reply of some kind

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You should send a private message to Aldtharios if you want to ask questions related to the in-game rules.

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Originally Posted by Zelekhut

You could say the same about any dungeon item, by this logic, and yet I know for a fact that people do get banned for ninja looting in dungeons - even on something such as Blue BoEs. So, where do you draw the line? This is why I would like some staff member to step in and say (in unambiguous terms) where the line is.

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Id say use some common sense, is it worth getting banned for? well if its a big upgrade from lets say a lvl 70 green item to epic? then yeah probably.
But for a blue BoE which anyone can buy on auctionhouse? that seems a bit drastical dosen't it?
I mean this system was implemented to get rid of those "ninjas", Greedy people meanwhile will always exist and I mean, use some common sense.