My main issue with WOTLK [TEAMS]

[concerning Icecrown]

So, since this is general discussion i guess ill try to start one about a topic many people have different opionions about, which is that of PVP Teams.

Now i personaly loathe teams, on my main i have a friendlist of people i can play with and have somewhat stable partners which makes it bareable, but it still is annoying that if im not the captain of the team or its full i simply cannot play if my partners are Offline or otherwise unreachable.

But on alts, or on new characters or on an alt on a different factions teams are just so horrible. I have a lock alt which i suck at, im totally horrible at it, but i would like to get better - trying to find people to play with is sooooo fckn hard, they are either in a team already or want some exp/cr but most of the time the following happens, i join with a person, we play together for a bit, mmr goes up, rating slowly follows - everything is well ... untill we log of. The next day he/she is offline or our schedules dont match up, i sit in his/her team for a day or two (after all the first time went well, dont want to quit just yet) but i just dont see them online, so i either lose the interest to play or i leave the team.

Or i am the captain, the other person goes MIA, and i get a new player - IF i get a new player, half the time the gane is full of "lfm 2v2, my team only", so i decide to swap over and join their team, only to find out they are horrible (and tryintg to coach someone while you dont even know the spec your curretnly playing is, at least for me, impossible) or i give up after and hour or two of looking for anyone to play with because people dont want to leave their teams (especially people at somewhat high rating). So my rating goes 0-1k, back to 0, 0-1.7k, back to 0, 0-1,2k, back to 0 over and over again till i get annoyed at my lack of progession and i quit.


Now on the other hand if i play (havnt for over a year, so idk if its still the same) MOP, which has less then a 10th of the players of Icecrown i can pvp nonstop, personal mmr/cr means i get people at every time of the day within a reasonable timeframe, no teams means i dont instantly lose my progress if i play with someone else, and at the same time no one else has to stick to their team, so they have almost nothing to lose either (but a little bit of CR). (it really is insane how much easier finding people to play with on a dead server like Frostwolf was compared to a super full server like Icecrown)

Retail is (in that regard) even better, make a groupadd, find somone instantly, play pvp.

However, retail is bad (pvp there sucks), classic doesnt have arenas and while i do enjoy Mop i dont enjoy the Frostwolf experience so i just want to play WOTLK, the class design is just perfect.


So for me, if there was a MOP like system of personal mmr/cr (and possible a port of the group finder) ICECROWN (and Blackrock/Lord) would just be sooo much better. I cant tell you how often i wanted to play a different alt on warmane to only give up dissapointed just because i couldnt find people to play with (if i wanted to try to push some rating/get better).



How do you guys feels about teams, does it enrich the game for you, does it suck? Kinda interested in how people feel about them.

They should simply add 3v3 Solo Queue to Icecrown and Lordaeron. Despite every other effort made to encourage activity in the 3v3 bracket, it remains dead due to various balance issues.

This is a very old server, players are simply not as committed to organize regular play with a 3 man team. I hope Warmane staff considers adding solo queue to Icecrown.

Before you say it's not blizzlike, this is a tiny change that won't affect the blizzlike experience that others will continue to have. In fact there are plenty of other changes to this server that are much larger non-blizzlike customizations.