Prot Pala DPS/PVE? It has it's niche :)

So, I understand that most newer players (and experienced players) really enjoy playing ret. In all honesty, all pala specs are not difficult to learn. On top of that it's really hard to do bad with a paladin. It's just as hard to do very well. I'm sure that most, if not all experienced pala players will not disagree with me on that.

Ok, so I've mained pala (all specs) during live wow when WotLK was current. Yes, I'm an OG. Let me assure you that this post is not to belittle any spec in any shape or form. It's just an informational for players that may not be aware. And,.. may want to try something outside of the box and different.

I always believe (because i've played both ret and prot while leveling my gear) that prot can and will out dps ret (=gs) (up until ret gets 2pc T10) if you gem, chant all offensively and use dps gear (no agi gear/just str plate)(Yes, offensive trinkets as well). The only exception to this rule is that all tanking weapons are fast, so you want to use an agi 1 hander that is slow. Remember now, it's prot dps. You do not need to be def capped. You are just dps ing in prot spec.

Now moving forward you want to get glyph of Hammer of the Righteousness so you get the 4'th target hit.
Glyph of Seal of Command. (Yes you will be using Seal of command / which means you'll have to spec for it)
Glyph of Consecration.
Glyph of sense undead. (minor) And you want to have sense undead on while dps ing as most dungeons/raids have undead or deamons.

If you have vote points, you want to get 2pc T7, IL 213 prot spec shoulders and hands. This it will increase you damage on HotR by 10%
When you get there, you want to get 2pc T10 IL 251/264/277 prot spec legs and head. This will increase your damage on HotR by 20%

But why should I gem my tanking gear (NOT STAM)?? Who says you cannot have more than 1 tank set???
Keep your stam set for tanking raids and use your str gemmed 2pc T7 and T10 for your offensive set.

I Challenge all paladin players to try it and I promise you, you will not be disappointed by the results.
Remember this is not your main tanking set. It's a fun set

Even if you are only 4 pcs (+shield), 5 pcs tanking gear, you will still be able to tank rdf hc.
Don't forget you do not need 50k hp to tank rdf as most healers are already skilled and geared and when you take hits, you'll be topped up quickly.

If you've ever run with Aydra (horde) or Sylanara (Ally) on Icecrown then you already know how well it performs first hand.
Yes, those toons are played by me.

Good luck and have fun!

Hello again. So, I'm kinda gonna be a little bit of a prick here. (Bashing Ret/PVE) I use to play ret, but I don't any more. Remember, we are talking strictly about PVE here. Here are my reasons. In all honesty, when it comes to dps, the only thing that ret has on Prot PVE dps is that ret out dpses prot on single target. So basically if you do not raid, (or you are gearing)(or you are not raiding yet) you have no reason to play ret (PVE). As prot in dps gears (=gs / =Tpcs) will always out dps ret in aoe. So to all those gearing ret palas,... If you want to get quicker Q's for dungeons? Just play prot spec with dps gears (like my above post) and Q as tank and dps. If you get tank spot turn on RF and if you get dps spot remove RF.

Now that you can Q for rdf like crazy, (minimal time waiting for rdf) you can get all your EoT gears for all your specs much quicker.

Good luck and have fun!

Hello. I'm not a Warmane player - just a guy that is into server emulation with mods to make it enjoyable for single player / small parties. And I'm a fan of these forums, as the people here provide some very informative posts.

This is certainly one of those posts. I honestly did not expect the damage output to be as high as I've seen. Note that I've only done a quick dungeon run with this build (and can't testify to it's effectiveness in a retail-like setting), so I can't weigh in on the Ret VS "this" debate - but it is very enjoyable to play and offers enough durability for me to be able to bump the difficulty up a bit - which I couldn't do as pure Ret or pure Prot. I'll definitely be doing more runs as this build, whatever you call it. Angry Prot? And it is pretty cool to have a "tertiary" spec.

Sorry, I know you were probably prefer a reply from a real Warmane player, but I figured I'd write this anyway since you gave me a very interesting way to play.

Excellent post, thank you for issuing the challenge.