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Hello guys, i play wow since 2011, and i know that is perfectly legal to roll as Fury Warrior DPS on WOTLK in Random Dungeon Heroic for https://postimg.cc/bdnr1XwZ if you have https://i.postimg.cc/PrCwd9Ts/asdasdsa.png, i think that is an upgrade for my item, i wanna see your opinions, it s legal for a fury warrior to roll for this agility ring?
Better? Yes.
"Legal"? Not really.
You're a Warrior. Warriors' main stat is strength, not agility. In RDF the rules are simplified.
https://i.postimg.cc/bdnr1XwZ/F-r-titlu.png this is the item rolled
Yes, strength is main stat, but warriors need agility for criticals, i know that warrior need like 600 agility :), how he can get agility without agility items? Can you tell me if there are some writen rules about rolling items in random dungeons? That means if i roll for a bis item as warrior like https://wotlk-twinhead.twinstar.cz/?item=50670 i can get ban?
I saw just few rules about this:
What qualifies as ninja?
- Player need rolling (group loot) on items which he cannot even use.
- In RDF needing on items for Off-Spec (unless everyone in party is explictly fine with this).
- Need rolling for other players to have 2 or more roll chances at one item.
And there is nothing is written here about the fact that everyone must roll for main stats, not for what they rlly need.
Well, Rogues, Hunters, Enhancement Shamans etc. can't roll on STR items, even if they would be better than their lvl 60 ones.Quote:
Originally Posted by andilarii
Tank item is still tank item, regardless of how big upgrade it is compared to your ilvl 137 quest reward.
At that gear level, in RDF, you're not going for BiS stats now are you?
STR helps hunters and ferals too, and I would bet you'd cry if a hunter/feral rolled need on "your" STR item.
You conveniently skipped parts of ninja rules, clearly saying who rolls what in RDFs.
Neither is your logic valid. Examples:
Oh, new gun dropped? "Mah warriah needs moar KRIT!", screw dat hunter who really benefits from upgrade.
Oh, agility ring drops? It will be mine, doesn't matter that i don't have any strength to build AP (crucial for warriors damage), doesn't matter that high agility is possible only starting from ICC levels of gear (to which 99% of guides are referring).
Dude, you are just trying to bend rules in your own favor. All "priority" is only apply in player made raids and only to specific items. Any druid/shaman/paladin that will attempt to roll on every cloth item will be shortly booted from raid. Any plate guy who will aim for all leather off-parts will be mocked, humiliated and kicked (because once again, no AP to provide any real DPS gain from extra crit).
Don't listen to these two, they clearly haven't been doing heroic dungeons in a while. There are literally NO STR ring drops from heroic dungeons. You are free to roll need on rings and necklaces with agility if its better than your current stuff.
Yeah, you think the GM will choose not to ban you just because there are no str rings from heroics.
Ninja bans in dungeons are unpredictable; I wouldn't risk a 3-day ban for a ring.
Ignore the people telling you how it works at your own risk.
GMs will just check which role the item reported was better suited for and whether the one who took it was in that role. Whether or not rings with X stat drop in Y dungeon won't be a concern before you get issued a ban for using Need on something that was for another role.
I agree, that 2 people just commented because maybe they are hunter/rogue or some char with agi, i made a research on my own, and i found 5 RINGS WITH AGILITY IN DUNGEONS, and no one with STRENGHT, yes and in rules there is nothing about that, i got banned but just for few hours because i did an ban appeal and they realised that i m right, yes guys, YOU CAN ROLL AGILITY RINGS IN RANDOM DUNGEON HEROIC BECAUSE THERE ARE NOT STRENGHT RINGS (that s on Frostwolves).Quote:
Originally Posted by Obnoxious
And about you OhiteMitzen and Persivan, please check more information about warriors priority, i know that i don t need leather in dungeons, but back,neck, rings or bow/throw/gun/crossbow are items with agility, if i think there is just a neck with str and all others with agility, i know there are 3 classes with plate roll and just 2 with leather 4 with agility prio, but there are no items with STRENGHT and that means plate classes will keep low level items until they go in a raid? How you can do a raid without ilvl or gearscore? You need to farm rdf and get this agility items. I made a ss on that rings with agility, i can prove that, and i said 1 more time that in rdf is not a specific rule that warrior,dk or paladin can t roll agility items (JUST RINGS BACK NECK GUN/BOW/THROWN/CROSSBOW) NOT LEATHER OR MAIL.
The ban wasn't removed "because they realized you were right." You got a second chance. Which it sounds like you will waste.Quote:
Originally Posted by andilarii
Ok, I understand, but how you can explain that there are no STR rings in dungeons? Does that mean I can t roll any rings if there are rogue/druids/hunters/enchshammy? I made some research and I saw 5 agility rings and no one with str, in my opinion, that means the plate class don t have items (BACK, GUN, THROWN, BOW, RINGS, and just 1 BACK WITH STR) to grow up for the start because the game is not perfect. Just in my opinion, because there are no specified rules for that, this is not correct to give this attribution to a person to decide who is right and who is wrong just from his perception! I understand the classic case when ”an warrior DPS rolled for tank item or some items with intellect”, this is really wrong, but there are cases like this where you don t have other options, if I played 11 years WOW in the lie sorry, I've never had anything like this happen to me, I have been playing on this server for years and is the first time when someone reported me for an agility ring in the dungeon, and I had a lot of similar situations without players who are upset for this. Usually, I stick with justice, if I got banned for a reason, I accept this and I accept the punishment, but if it is something wrong, I wanna see how things are solved.Quote:
Originally Posted by Obnoxious
There is nothing to solve, there are no STR rings. No, you cant take agi rings. The end.
About ranged items, I believe you can roll on any that's an upgrade, except tank ranged items. Because STR ranged items do not exist.
I suggest you make your own party, split the loot however you see fit and fair. What's your problem?
You can also always roll Greed along with everyone else in the group and hope you're lucky.