Wintrading and Scripting in Arena has gotten out of hand

Wintrading and Scripting in Arena has gotten out of hand
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I was wondering why does Warmane still grant titles from SOLOQ since the ladder is dominated by wintraders and scripters above 2k.
For instance, if you take a look at the current top 10 in SOLOQ, you will notice there is a shaman wintrading for a priest from two alt characters (also shamans) and the same priest wintrading for this shaman from his alt (very obvious and it has been reported by multiple players, but no action was taken against them).
Whenever they get with each other, both of them will play legit; whenever they face each other, one of them will purposefully grief their team so that the other wins. This is super obvious and you can check multiple dates (everytime it's the same pattern).
They’re definitely not the only ones doing this.
Rumor has it that some of these SOLOQ griefers are friends with the GM responsible for banning arena players and nothing happens to them.

Another issue would obviously be that at least 1 in 4 players in SOLOQ is a scripter (mostly shamans, warriors and warlocks) and you keep reporting them and nothing happens.
Therefore, should we consider arena on Warmane officially dead and a bad joke?
Given the situation, why are there titles being granted based on SOLOQ anymore since it is completely rigged? It gives these non-legitimate toxic players the opportunity to ‘flex’ about how good they are or to sell those characters for coins and money.

This post will probably be taken down for no reason, so whoever gets to read it, enjoy it, KEK

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Originally Posted by NedimW

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I'm guessing you weren't supposed to include this line.

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Originally Posted by NedimW

Rumor has it that some of these SOLOQ griefers are friends with the GM responsible for banning arena players and nothing happens to them.

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And this is how I know it's a collection of rumors. There is no single GM handling arena bans, they all issue arena bans.

I think you meant to type "they all DON'T issue arena bans". Clearly not for scripters or wintraders, but if you somehow call someone the N word, God forbid.

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Originally Posted by Frozenhope

I think you meant to type "they all DON'T issue arena bans". Clearly not for scripters or wintraders, but if you somehow call someone the N word, God forbid.

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I think you're relying on speculation for a rant and we both know you shouldn't post any evidence here so I think we can both agree that's a pointless argument to have on the forums. If you're having a problem with a GM you can talk to the head GM through a private message.

I think the gaslighting is hilarious since everyone keeps making tickets about wintrading and scripting and nothing happens.
You can ask half the high rated players what the situation is, but of course you don't.
"Speculation", LOOOOOL

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Originally Posted by Frozenhope

I think the gaslighting is hilarious since everyone keeps making tickets about wintrading and scripting and nothing happens.

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I think the dedication to ranting instead of talking to the person in charge of everything associated with in-game bans is ironic.

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Originally Posted by Repost

I think you're relying on speculation for a rant and we both know you shouldn't post any evidence here so I think we can both agree that's a pointless argument to have on the forums. If you're having a problem with a GM you can talk to the head GM through a private message.

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Jesus christ dude, get real.
We all know how many scripters are there (always have been, but lately it´s kinda absurd). As for wintrading, the one described is definitely taking place and it´s done in such a moronic way, I´m having a hard time thinking that it´s anything else than a demonstration of what´s being let slide.

Instead of trying to mock the argument presented and it´s authors, maybe you actually try to do something about it, huh?

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Originally Posted by Micmengodx

Instead of trying to mock the argument presented and it´s authors, maybe you actually try to do something about it, huh?

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Throwing words around doesn't make them reality. That wasn't mocking, that was the bottom line. The subject doesn't belong on the forums, discussing it is bound to break more rules eventually and in the end all you've done is wasted time talking to people who lack any authority over the problem. You want me to do something but fail to realize that all I can do is reach out to the same person I've already linked here with evidence that I don't have.

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Originally Posted by Micmengodx

Instead of trying to mock the argument presented and it´s authors, maybe you actually try to do something about it, huh?

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Pointing out the obvious != "mocking".
Furthermore, he is a forum moderator. He's already posted what the proper channels to handle this are. Would you rather sit here and argue with him than to do what we ask so that the situation you claim matters gets settled?

How does it not belong on the forums if this is a general issue? Maybe because y'all don't want to ban scripters and wintraders from arena because it is already dead and you'd have to get rid of 1/3 of the playerbase.
What you fail to realize is that it is dead exactly because you allowed this to happen since always and legitimate players get tired of this.

He explained why it doesn't belong in the Forum, but if you need it more straightforward, so I don't end up eventually sending people off on a break, as the very first post - a copy of one of yours that got deleted (if removing names and screenshots now) - already has the same propaganda about GMs being friends with whoever, which others are repeating.

Someone's inability to make a proper case in a report, with evidence that proves something beyond doubt, doesn't mean "someone is friends with someone," just that GMs don't accept "trust me, bro" reports. They don't ban based on "it's obvious" for you. If you can prove cheating with plain facts and evidence, no extrapolating or guessing or assuming or whatever beyond what you're showing, leaving no room for doubt, they do get punished. I'd bet most cases are "go watch this match ID" or "no one can do that because I can't."

Proving someone is cheating is hard, because it's not that difficult to make it look legitimate, and that's exactly why not many got banned for it, even on retail. The priority simply is not banning innocent people over banning anyone someone might call a cheater.

So, enlighten me about how else are you supposed to get someone banned for scripting other than telling the GM to watch the match ID and see that a shaman is casting wind shear instantly every single time you cast a heal or that a warlock is AUTOMATICALLY pet silencing you on peneance cast.
If the ones responsible for banning people in arena are players who have the skillcap of a rock, then yes, no wonder no one gets banned.
Regarding those players wintrading, you can check the fact that they queue at the same time always and they have close to 100% win rate versus the "burner" character. It's clear as the day. You make tickets about it and no1 investigates or talks to you, just get the same reply: "Thank you for raising this issue. We will investigate".

No its straight up mocking when you sum it all up as a "rant" when you report and do what you have to do and nothing happens and here this moderator is mocking OP by calling it a "rumor" yeah the games ID and the long history of games with the said player are all a "rumor", like are you that oblivious? you don't think we try to do that and everytime we get no result at all. Warmane is losing pvp players left and right and now the arena season has to be 6 months because of the lack of active players because of the "rumors" lmfao
maybe if matter gets solved when the complaints are sent to the "proper channels to handle this" then you wouldn't have people complaining here.

You have no concept of what mockery is or are way too sensitive if having a rant called a rant makes you feel mocked. You might want to look up what the definition of a rant is for starters.

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Originally Posted by Obnoxious

You have no concept of what mockery is or are way too sensitive if having a rant called a rant makes you feel mocked. You might want to look up what the definition of a rant is for starters.

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You might want to look up at the definition of 'gaslighting' and 'textbook narcissist' also.