afks in AV

When will the staff adress the curent AV situation?
70% ppl are afks only moving when needed to avoid the anti-afk system (which btw is complete dog**** but i guess it never was created to fight this kind of situation)

Went to check the server rules, here are some :

NO PVP EXPLOITING
There are five known methods to abuse of it: (only listing the 2 we could apply to this situation)
Honor Exploit: Allowing someone to kill you or let you kill his/her toon to get Honor points in locations where it can be done fast and deliberately is not allowed.
Wintrading: Arranged battles in order to profit of its prizes is highly forbidden leading to bans.

also, non-PVP related rules :

NO SOCIAL MISTREATMENT OR ANNOYANCE
We prize for a fun enviroment for everybody, meaning all players should follow that philosophy If you dont wish to have your gameplay disrupted by a GM intervention, just play nice and avoid ruining the gameplay of your fellow players. Below are some examples of what you shouldn't do!
Disrupting gameplay: Using minor exploits or poorly designed parts of game mechanics to noticably interfere with other players' gameplay.


So now can somebody tell me how staying afk 10 hours a day getting carried by others to achieve a pvp rank and get rewards isn't part of the rules i just listed above?
Sadly it appears to be a problem way more developped in horde than in alliance (even though alliance do have afks, the number is usually way lower than in horde). If battles were really played 40vs40 and alliance had that much of an advantage, i'd just swallow it, but right now, alliance is farming up to 4 times more HKs just because they're aoeing down afks on graveyards, and that is for me the same as wintrading or honor exploiting as mentioned above. Now i'm not saying alliance players are queueing horde characters to farm them, but since the results is the same, i'd say those horde characters should be punished.
It's curently destroying any potential gaming experience of people wanting to play to farm their HKs and their ranks, because it's making it impossible to do so. There is no point trying to play a 5vs30 battle, therefore the few people trying to play get frustrated and either leave or just starts to afk too.

The situation is worsening every day and i'm pretty sure it would only take a handful of bans to stop this ****ty behaviour. It is not normal to see a rogue with 2k HKs in an AV where he got 3 killing blows, no objectives whatsoever and dealt less than 25k damages while others are at 2 millions+ damages.

We need some warmane staff action here.

if inactivity (equiv. to /afk) would be triggered after 60 seconds in AV, problem would reduce quite a bit

But I thought only Blackrock players would start AFKing in the future because the Onyxia PvP community is tight knit with everyone knowing each other and permanently chatting in BGs about their days, no way they also AFK non stop and basically just play to farm honor!
Very strange indeed, it was such a nice "argument" against Blackrock merge, lmao!

Jokes aside, I do not think there is any reasonable solution for this, as you can imagine most people treat BGs like a side activity while sitting in home office, taking care of children IRL and doing other stuff with minimal investment in playing because it is just impossible to constantly monitor every players individual performance, as a GM would have to check everyone in the BG constantly.
The best bet is recording and opening tickets probably so GMs can review them at a later point in time.

Make it a 30 second timer. By the time someone notices you in the same spot, or compares the scoreboard and can tell you're AFK, it would be several minutes anyway.

Or just ban them. If you present a screenshot with some rogue with 2000 HK's and 0 damage, that's a bot, treat it like one.

2k hks with 3kills?? damn never saw that,but saw 55k hks rogue with 10k dmg every av,the rogues shouldn't be allowed to que for av didn't see any rogue that would work he's hks

Is this actually still a topic after 10 months now is it? In a PvP environment that's barely alive?

Simple answer guys is Vanilla AV was that way. That's why it changed in later expansions.

My question is why are players at this stage of the game even doing that? It's an honest question I don't get it. All the raids are open and better gear is available at a fraction of the time. You can even sit and farm gold for a few hours and sell it for coins to buy better gear in a fraction of the time. Was the plan to spend a month afk multiple hours a day to get R12/R13 just for it to get outdated on TBC launch? If you want to stockpile honor then go play WSG and get 300 honor a game. Not understanding the logic here.

I farmed my R14 faithfully, without ever afk.
I, an honest player, will never set foot on Onixya again because of the complacency shown to the players who cheat by literally ruining the gaming experience of those who really play.
I farmed my R14 seeing afk guys all day, farming several characters and never being banned despite several reports.
Disgusted.

It's like giving players the ability to farm Nax stuff while being AFK.

It will kill the game, and they killed pvp on this server.

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Originally Posted by Illdryalle

I farmed my R14 faithfully, without ever afk.
I, an honest player, will never set foot on Onixya again because of the complacency shown to the players who cheat by literally ruining the gaming experience of those who really play.
I farmed my R14 seeing afk guys all day, farming several characters and never being banned despite several reports.
Disgusted.

It's like giving players the ability to farm Nax stuff while being AFK.

It will kill the game, and they killed pvp on this server.

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Buddy this has been happening for 20 years. We all know that you aren't going to stop playing. Stop acting righteous and accept that this is how WoW is. Blizzard couldn't police it, what makes you think any private server could?

YOU made the conscious decision to grind rank 14 on a private server. If you are upset about this, you only have yourself to blame.

Go do something else if you cannot accept the reality of BGs in WoW. It's been the same for decades.

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Originally Posted by Illdryalle

I farmed my R14 faithfully, without ever afk.
I, an honest player, will never set foot on Onixya again

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So it took you until after you farmed R14 and helped farm all those HK for the afk cheaters as well for you to finally take the moral high road and quit the game?

In the early days of this server was a serial AFKer. he was chasing horde first High Warlord. He would flaunt it and acted like an ***. So one day I saw him at the hill near Stormpike Graveyard AFK so I reported him AFK and the debuff came up for him. I was watching him and with about 1 minute before getting removed from BG I saw him charge in and take 1 swing at a ram and then go back to AFK so I took a video clip of him. A few days later he got a ban and ended up losing out on horde 1st High Warlord as a result...


Stupid *** he is.

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Originally Posted by jmsvanbuskirk

My question is why are players at this stage of the game even doing that? It's an honest question I don't get it. All the raids are open and better gear is available at a fraction of the time. You can even sit and farm gold for a few hours and sell it for coins to buy better gear in a fraction of the time. Was the plan to spend a month afk multiple hours a day to get R12/R13 just for it to get outdated on TBC launch? If you want to stockpile honor then go play WSG and get 300 honor a game. Not understanding the logic here.

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Because only 1% of the server's population has stepped inside Naxx. In Vanilla, you can farm for good gear through PvP whereas in PvE you need to get under a Guild Master's desk, and only then are you relying on 2% drop rates, once a week.

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Originally Posted by tiamek1

Because only 1% of the server's population has stepped inside Naxx. In Vanilla, you can farm for good gear through PvP whereas in PvE you need to get under a Guild Master's desk, and only then are you relying on 2% drop rates, once a week.

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I wasn't referring to Naxx. Even though you can jump in on a Naxx farm and get near bis level trash drops. Beating blue level PvP gear you can just do AQ20/ZG twice a week. Bloodvine is available. Many guilds are farming content for world buffs or alts and those raids aren't too difficult to get into. Ony/ZG gear is practically a handout. There are a lot of options during this phase. And to be efficient anyway in Vanilla PvP you have to get off pieces anyway.

Farming HK though is a disgusting amount of hours of play time in comparison. You're not hitting epics till 30k HK and that's 100 hours of playtime maybe? Over the course of a month that's over 3 hours a day sitting in AV. That's only half way to R14. With TBC around the corner and wasting all that time it just isn't efficient.

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Originally Posted by jeffkohut

In the early days of this server was a serial AFKer. he was chasing horde first High Warlord. He would flaunt it and acted like an ***. So one day I saw him at the hill near Stormpike Graveyard AFK so I reported him AFK and the debuff came up for him. I was watching him and with about 1 minute before getting removed from BG I saw him charge in and take 1 swing at a ram and then go back to AFK so I took a video clip of him. A few days later he got a ban and ended up losing out on horde 1st High Warlord as a result...


Stupid *** he is.

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The problem is that it's not a permanent ban. If you're in a BG and not physically present while farming HK's - that's botting. There's no human player doing the the farming. Just keep reporting them. Utterly flood them with tickets until they solve this problem. Use OBS or something to provide the proof that they're exploiting the debuff-clearing with a single knife-throw.

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Originally Posted by tiamek1

The problem is that it's not a permanent ban. If you're in a BG and not physically present while farming HK's - that's botting. There's no human player doing the the farming. Just keep reporting them. Utterly flood them with tickets until they solve this problem. Use OBS or something to provide the proof that they're exploiting the debuff-clearing with a single knife-throw.

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No, that isn't botting, I have no idea if you're being dishonest or just are that clueless.

"Flooding with tickets" won't make a difference (at most annoy the GMs), reports aren't a popularity contest, either a report will have something the GMs consider bannable or not, they won't be peer pressured into banning due to volume.