12k online RDF HC waiting time 1 hour or more.
Simple fix add something so tanks join RDF HC so they get extra bonus what ever.
How long we wait for that?
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12k online RDF HC waiting time 1 hour or more.
Simple fix add something so tanks join RDF HC so they get extra bonus what ever.
How long we wait for that?
This has already been brought up and answered before. No they should not get extra rewards when their queues are already infinitley shorter than that of dps.Quote:
Originally Posted by dontfak
The request is to give incentive to get tanks and healers to run more often. Not give them a reward for doing what they are already doing. Yes they should get an extra reward for running additional heriocs, just to help out dps players. YES They should.
That sounds like a good idea. Incentivizing people to play the classes they lack would be ideal. Yesterday of DPS I was 1 hour in queue waiting....
TBC HC dungeons are not made for rdf in this phase, you need a balanced group with the appropriate amount of cc and utility.
No tank is risking rdf to be matched with 3 warrior dps, and I doubt that if you increase rewards for tanks the situation would change.
My advice is to join groups using the global channel, or make your own.
I'll give you some advice. Make your own groups in global. Many players learned that random groups for heroics are hit or miss especially tanks.
Making your own group gives you more control over the quality of players and composition. And it's going to be easier to find a tank that way as well as increase your success rate. RDF is a concept that just doesn't work well for heroics in TBC.
My experience tanking RDF heroics here: 3 dps warrs / rogues in greens, nobody kicks; mage with Charm of Alacrity / essence of Eranikus trinkets; healer just robo-heals without dispelling or offering any utility whatsoever; healer constantly oom, won't let me drop below 99% on a 2-mob pack where he could just drink; good buffs like botanica/SL mobs are not spellstolen, MC'd, or even purged off; language barrier; people leave after 1 death or demand "kick me"; etc
Good players get snapped up instantly into guilds, or add each other to friends lists (this goes even for DPS classes)
TBC 5mans incentivize understanding your class and the tools you have available. Not claiming it's mega difficult, I don't consider myself good at pve. I just enjoy it when a group is using their abilities, TBC dungeons can be very fun, but RDF doesn't really promote that
Sometimes the people using RDF are the ones who can't find a group otherwise
Rant over
Been the same way for over 10 years, it's simply the reality of the vast ratio between roles.
I'm a healer and I'm never stepping foot into heroic RDF without a premade group. The gs requirements for getting into rdf heroics are way too low. So not only do you have to deal with group balance issues i.e ending up in SHH with no mage or in Steamvaults with no lock, now your group is also full of people in **** gear. And thats on top of good 80% of players on this server being absolute apes. Add whatever rewards you want, I'll just keep doing heroics with my friends.
I play protpaladin and i never use RDF for heroics, i am tired of full green dps
there should be a ilvl requirement for heroics the same as WOTLK
The irony of players begging for healers to queue RDF HC in "/join global" chat, instead of forming or joining own groups from global chat.
No healer who has tried even a few RDF HCs will ever touch it even with a big stick again. If you are lucky, they may queue up the easiest Specific Dungeons Heroic like OHF, SP, UB, but RDF is way too random, with no control over composition and gear checks. Successful groups in some/many heroics can get away with low-geared healers, they will NOT get away with even remotely low geared tanks in most heroics and you have no hope in hell, no matter how the rest of the group is geared if you have do not have geared DPS in Black Morass, SHH and Arcatraz.
How can you control for these checks using RDF HC? You cannot. So, get GroupBulletinBoard or some other chat monitor addon to track LFM/LFG messages. Or form a group in global chat yourself, and healers will be whispering you in no time. Think about how many steps are required for someone to even whisper you to join your group - this eliminates the most basic of *****s + botters and those who may not understand what you want.
Keep the Armory open in a browser tab: https://armory.warmane.com/character/Bob/Onyxia/summary
Ask someone to put on their role gear and watch the tab.
Invite all, queue up for RDF Specific Dungeon Heroic that you want with full group, and start. Done.