Alterac Valley and Isle of conquest issue

Every 2 bg i log is AV or ISLE .
The battlegrounds are a pure misery to play in . Full premades camping their bases with multiboxers .
Just remove them from the RBG Queue and make it a separate one or just lower the chance to log into one. It is total waste of time and most of the players only complain about it in game or just afk blatantly .
I am sure this will be ignored because admins are some of those multiboxers farming kills .
I just had to make a topic of it cuz its beyond frustrating at this point .

I played for a couple hours at the time you posted this. I had 3 WSG, 3 Strand, 1 AV. No premades at all. I saw no graveyard camping. Won 4 of those games and lost 3. This was the the so called BIS level bracket. The AV game was very long with both teams in a stale mate going back and forth. Objectives were played in all those games.

I would agree with you if this were happening as badly as players here suggest, but that's the issue is I don't see it. It sounds really exaggerated.

So you are giving me your couple hour statistic you came up with ? im am playing here for a long time and have all the classess so my perspective isnt just from one toon .Just because you lucked out on a couple of bgs dont dismiss my point . Thanks

No. I'm giving a couple hours at the time you played. I've seen this same post over and over with players saying they can't hardly play because of premades. And like you, they all say they're veteran players and pop up in the forums to complain about this issue because it's so horrible. Yet I can't solve what they're talking about. I thought it was time of day and yet here I am playing during the same hours and nothing. It's a genuine question... where are they?

Every two battlegrounds I can't even get AV or IOC to pop. Is it faction specific? Is it a specific guild? When are you seeing this? Elaborate on it. Years played and amount of toons is irrelevant to the argument. Either it happens presently or it doesn't.

There is no point talking to you.There is nothing for you to solve.You are not a GM . This post was made for the higher ups to see and express my frustration with the situation and god knows where are you playing bgs if u dont see premades and multiboxers .

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Originally Posted by jmsvanbuskirk

I've seen this same post over and over with players saying they can't

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It’s wild though, if you ‘keep seeing the same post over and over’ from all these ‘veteran players’… maybe, just maybe, it’s not a mass hallucination?
I also keep seeing the exact same dismissive responses from you and two other guys on repeat for months. Meanwhile, the actual posts about premades? They keep popping up from different players every couple days, like clockwork. But sure, it’s probably just a global veteran-player delusion, and not you three spamming copy-paste denial like it’s your part-time job.

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Originally Posted by zyppa

It’s wild though, if you ‘keep seeing the same post over and over’ from all these ‘veteran players’… maybe, just maybe, it’s not a mass hallucination?
I also keep seeing the exact same dismissive responses from you and two other guys on repeat for months. Meanwhile, the actual posts about premades? They keep popping up from different players every couple days, like clockwork. But sure, it’s probably just a global veteran-player delusion, and not you three spamming copy-paste denial like it’s your part-time job.

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It is a forum for player discussion. He stated, "Every 2 bg i log is AV or ISLE ". That's his experience. I shared my experience which was nothing like that and has never been like that. Am I not allowed to also share my experience? Now I'm challenging those claims. But strangely when I do that and I ask questions there are no answers. No evidence. There are thousands of PvP players on this server and a couple complaints here and there doesn't justify changing the whole system. Solidify your arguments with data or anything. Prove us all wrong and like I said I'm happy to agree with you. I legitimately have not found substance to what seems like exaggerated claims saying the game is basically unplayable because of premades.

I stopped responding because he didn't care to continue discussion with me, the only one that responded to his post. He apparently only wanted to talk to staff who he can message any time he likes. There's also a suggestion thread he could've used. But this is a forum for anyone to post on so I did. I guess I don't have to and it can sit here untouched if you like. You two can bond over your premade misery and maybe staff will have sympathy. Good luck with that.

A practical way to improve your experience in battlegrounds is to queue ONLY for Eye of the Storm and Arathi Basin, and never queue for Random Battlegrounds. If battlegrounds is a significant part of your gameplay, I recommend playing exclusively from Blackrock and recreate your character whenever you get bumped consistently into the higher gear bracket.

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Originally Posted by jmsvanbuskirk

Solidify your arguments with data or anything. Prove us all wrong and like I said I'm happy to agree with you.

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The reason you got “No point talking to you” is because you’re not making sense.
What exactly are you expecting him to provide?
A 4-hour video of queue times?
A 5-hour recording of people being farmed and leaving BGs?
An 8-hour clip of half the team AFK until it’s over?
Daily spreadsheets from players logging every single BG for weeks?

And then what? What would you do with it? You’re just a “Member.” There are people who actually get paid to investigate this sort of thing.

You also keep circling back to your personal experience as though it invalidates everyone else’s.
But when post after post from different players raises the same issue, day after day,
you don't have to post the same answers to all of them without proof yourself, just to dismiss them all as “exaggeration”, because it doesn’t line up with your own matches.

Ironically, you accuse others of lacking data,
but you’re leaning entirely on your own “my queues look fine.” as if that's evidence.
That’s not discussion, that’s denial dressed up as debate.

And don’t worry about my supposed “misery.” I’ve long since given up putting time or money into this, after staff made it clear nothing will be touched. Most of my friends already left after dropping thousands in. The only real misery here, in my opinion, is the state of PvP itself, on every level. That, and the way obviously non-PvP players love to dismiss PvP issues like they’ve got it all figured out.

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Originally Posted by zyppa

You keep circling back to your personal experience as though it invalidates everyone else’s.

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You keep talking about "daily" posts and threads of "everyone else"... that are what, not even 5% of the people who play Battlegrounds?

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Originally Posted by Obnoxious

You keep talking about "daily" posts and threads of "everyone else"... that are what, not even 5% of the people who play Battlegrounds?

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There is the 2nd one, with the generic responses, I mentioned in my previous post.
How exactly did you come up with that conclusion?
There’s no tracking of percentages here, so reducing repeated posts to “not even 5%” is just another way of brushing it off.

When I made my own post, it wasn’t just my perspective, it lined up with the guild I played with and talked to about all this.
We discussed how unfun the situation had become, but none of them would bother logging into the forum just to be mocked or met with generic dismissals.
Wonder why? :)

Ah right, "everyone else" is Forum shy.
Gotta keep that broom brushing...

I'm not dismissing the argument. I'm inviting it. The problem is that you're saying ghosts exist and I don't believe you. So I'm asking you to provide anything at all to help me believe, but instead you get all defensive or refuse to continue the discussion.

What times are you playing? What guilds are doing this? Is it faction specific? Give me information. I'm asking the questions to figure it out and the response to that is actual dismissal. That only proves to me even further that what you're saying isn't true.

I'll take it a step further. You tell me the exact faction, class, spec, day, time, conditions that you are playing where you're seeing these unplayable games. I will replicate that exact approach for two hours. I'll screenshot the games or video the whole thing if you want. And if you're right then you'll have evidence supporting your argument. That shouldn't be too much of an issue if you're actually confident in your argument. I play enough I could test it ten times for you and give you all the results. 20 hours of game time. Let me know.

jmsvanbuskirk take your pills.
Obnoxious very constuctive comments.
zyppa thx for a real post . Dont bother continue with this topic ive given up already . Today i loged maybe 11 bgs 1 isle 4 AV 3Sota 1wsg 2EOS .
Its easier to grab the money and make a daily Deathmatch pvp event rather than make some quality of life changes on a server where its desperately needed .
Thx all .