Wintergrasp Commendation removal

For those who don't know it yet, wintergrasp commendation, the item which allows to stockpile honor or send it to your alts has been removed from the shop.

The reason is, apparently, people playing s5 were abusing the item and the 3v3 quest for 15k honor. Creating multiple alts/multiboxing to bypass battleground honor farming.

Now I understand that this is an issue and that it should be addressed. However, when I saw the item removed, I thought that it was the quick fix put in place while a better fix was discussed/waiting to be implemented. It seems like I was wrong as I saw messages from a GM on this forum confirming that the item will not come back.

Now I have multiple questions on the matter.

1. Can we get and official confirmation that the item will not come back on the server ? Meaning that this is the solution found for the abuse and no other solution is insight ?
2. Why does this impact s8 players ? We have nothing to do with this abuse.

To me, the solution would be to address the real issue, which is the 3v3 quest itself, not the wintergrasp commendation. I've seen player suggest a lot of things like putting back the item with arena point cost instead, to me none of this address the issue of s8 players, who just want to be able to transfer their surplus of honor to their alts.

Permanent fixes for the issues could be:
1. Only put back the item for s8 players.
2. Put back the item for everyone, but limit the 3v3 quest (or all arena quest) for s5 players as once per day PER account.

I do not think I have the best solution, there are just proposal. However, I do really think all s8 players would like to have this item back and not be impacted by s5 players abuse.

To everyone, please stay kind, insults and anger will not lead us anywhere.

Thanks for reading, I hope I can get an official answer.

Bump as this is clearly something no one in the community is happy with.

There are other solutions as well though the proposed above are fine :
- Don't reward the quest on no-damage & no healing done arenas
- Only progress the quest in matches past a certain rating threhshold
- Don't progress the quest if there are multiple IPs in common within the same game
- Reduce the honor gains from the quest and offset this nerf by introducing other daily quests instead for BGs and what not

I agree with the Blackrock players' disappointment. I too thought this decision was temporary, but it turns out it wasn't. Calling people playing on a PvP-only server delusional is wrong. Without Blackrock arena scene is dead and bg queues are longer.

You did a great job at fusing different communities with the introduction of Onyxia. People came here to play from vanilla and tbc. As a result, some of them are even playing wotlk now. This is good for player base growth.

I want to point out that many people play both Onyxia and Blackrock. It's been said that Onyxia caters to casuals, so let's not pretend like it's so hard to level and do other grindy stuff. Also, let's be honest, not all Onyxia players play arena or bgs. Otherwise, there would be no need for cross-realm interaction with Blackrock. This wg badge made it easier to gear alts on Blackrock, which can not be a bad thing for promoting more active players, which in turn makes the pvp scene healthier for the realms involved.

Blackrock is used to make pvp more active and that is a good thing, even if we are forced to play with perma merc mode. Simply removing https://wotlk.cavernoftime.com/item=44115 for S5 and S8 will hurt the purpose of this realm. This made playing on both realms at the same time very hard now in terms of getting good gear.

If your decision about this is final, then at least consider adding it back for S8. S8 players had nothing to do with this abuse. I also think deleting the existing https://wotlk.cavernoftime.com/item=44115 from the bags is an incredibly bad idea. Not everyone is at fault and there are a lot of people who farmed those without cheating, myself included.

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Originally Posted by mcpotato

- Reduce the honor gains from the quest and offset this nerf by introducing other daily quests instead for BGs and what not

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That would make too much sense. All of the decisions made in regards to progressive Blackrock so far have been completely illogical. Unless the goal is to make people so frustrated that they quit permanently, or until items are released on cash shop.

Another solution i mentioned in other topic is sell this item in stacks (20 items for 50k or 30 for 75k). This will both fix the problem of win trading for 3s quest and let s5/s8 players to gear up their alts just like before.