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I dont get the point of the hate. You want to organise brainless 40v40 cause you do not have skilled individuals that cannot think what to do in a real pvp situation. If you want to show skill, 10v10 WSG. 40v40 is nothing but a zergfest, yet half of you who speak so highly of it, dont even know what to do in a 40v40. Plain simple,. valar would obliterate you.
Best regards, Eclipsex.
Before i say anything i would like to point out that i am not supporting any of those guilds which are having debate over here and i would please you guys not to throw any hate on me. This topic doesn't concern me at all but i still feel the need to share my thoughts as experienced pvp player and neutral observer. During the 4 years of playing on Molten/Warmane i was in several pvp guilds including JSO and Pokemonz and shortly in Puff Puff Pass and Iron Horde and i believe i have some experience to judge about current state of pvp. I just have to say that something doesn't make any logic to me here. If we presume that VM intentionally dodged fight why would they propose 10v10 in guild disband if they are really in fear of Warbringers? I am serb from Bosnia and i saw the letter which Zhonga uploaded and it says "Killwithme has no internet" It clearly can be a lie, but if it's the truth just tell me would Warbringers go for it if Zhonga or Tuerkij were unable to attend ?
I think we all know the answer to that.
Also i think u shouldn't play in guild disband, both guilds are too valuable for each side. I think you should play normal 10v10 fight in wsg or arena. Whichever side wins should be obligated to give chance for rematch when other side feel is ready to try again. Problem solved.
I am sorry guys i have read my previous comment and i can't get rid of feeling that it looks like i am VM fanboy.....
I would like to explain myself a bit more. So far now i have collected over 40k honorable kills on my toons (over 80k before wipe) and i've saw everything. Let me first say that i dont think that battleground is always showing real picture who is better but some other indicators are giving the answer. I was in Iron Horde at their begginings and we really had a lot of fun and success in pvp, we were capable of winning every battleground for few hours straight and then we meet Valar Morghulis premade..... After first fight we lose, everything gets broken, members are not listening, there is no plan B etc etc etc. Warbringers however are in my oppinion three times better guild than Iron Horde was and i believe its because strong alliance (expecially Valar Morghulis) made them become like that simply by punishing each mistake horde team is making and outplaying horde team in most of battlegrounds. The way to become better is simple, once when you realise importancy to act like a team and listen to the leader things are going dramatically better. I recall how huge impact Rudolf Scitovski had to Pokemonz and in general pvp on Deathwing by forcing alliance teams to give 150% of their abilities to win and same thing is happening right now by VM. I can see recently Warbringers are making huge steps forward and everyone should fear them, i am glad because of that and i really wish you guys to continue like that, you are the guild which is keeping horde alive. At the end lets be honest Valar Morghulis is by far best guild on the realm. No doubt, you have to admit that.
p.s. Serana dont be mad, i have faced you with my ally toon and you are indeed the worst warrior.
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Originally Posted by Aleszander
Both guilds aren't what they claim / think they are.
Their only value is number. Fact is they all get outplayed by a team of 5-6 friends from Ragnaros...
EDIT: And they both actually suck at BGs, ignoring objectives, going for the kills, because what else can you do when you have the best gear in the game delievered to you by a mailbox :)
In terms of pvp, if everyone is equal in gear then it comes down to skill, which clearly shows how BOTH guilds aren't what they actually think they are.
First of all i have to tell you that you quote person which have no rights to speak such thing because he is not any better than that group of average players on Warmane.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mchaplain
Second of all you are right, both guilds probably ain't what they claim/think they are.
Third they are still the best what Deathwing have. It is maybe lame but thats how it is.
Fourth: do not generalise stuff. Both guilds have gladiators/duelist players and also hardcore battleground players with thousands of battlegrounds played and hundreds of honorable kills.
Fifth: If by 5-6 Ragnaros players you meant Peekaboo, than you should consider also that its not 5 randoms, they are same type of players with years of experience playing together and a lot of pvp experience. Don't be a fool if you think that VM and WB with their core group wouldn't do the same to most of the Ragnaros guilds. I was there, i saw situation, if Ragnaros was challenging place they would never transfer to Deathwing.
And at the end...who d fk cares about objectives if there is good team to fight against. . . .Like you said, those are players with BiS gear and they dont really need that bonus honor.
Kosasan came here peacefully talking in the most respectful and humble way but then suddently it degenerated to what the last post says. How come it doesn't surprise me?
Dang, u made me cri. :(Quote:
Originally Posted by Kosasan
Ah omg i miss the event...!
Guild with so much high expectations will also kill them slowly...
Their ego will just smack them on their faces when they get loses from random players and rage quit blaming low gs people in bg's.
Aw sorry for that but all i wanna say is that don't play just for the win or guild rating its just ego ranking sometimes you won but you feel lose u we're not satisfied but if you play for just chilling i'm sure wining or losing you will be having fun...
So just chill..!
See ya in bg's..
Erconhaa here's the chicken dance you.!
/chicken
Regards,
Allygirls/Walkercan ex-Bulled
'Serana you're bad'
brb drinking antifreeze
Wulf will eat you.
goofy *** niggas they don't wanna hit that tooka pack
word around town these biches sneak dissin, challenges must be blank cuz they keep missing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lilyungreapz
better get to duckin if OTF is mentioned.
I didnt want to mention OTF here cause i didnt know r u guys still active as guild, but i bet that OTF would pwn any of this RBG guilds :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Sumic
there are good players in that guild but most of them suck tbh, since they invited a lot of geared players with no skillQuote:
Originally Posted by Orthodox92
wouldnt comment if i didnt have the chance to see it for myself yesterday
http://i.imgur.com/zRbPZb6.png
http://i.imgur.com/tUVu5ff.png
http://i.imgur.com/Pew4W6G.png
(just saved u the work of looking all of us up on armory, good guy ohdo)
wanna mirror for 2 million gold bet?Quote:
Originally Posted by Mednieks4