PTR Naxx Impossible

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Originally Posted by MemorieZ

I dont like those buffs because they should think about casual people that do not have PC that will run on full graphics 200 FPS, some of them came for fun from old Lordaeron.

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What does this even have to do with anything? I play on a ****ty MacBook so no one has an excuse computer-related.

To the 2 guys comparing Armories, from your talk I actually expected some nice armories, no Feats of Strength from any raid in WotLK -> MoP, no realm fists and no Mythic Archimonde kills, even pugs are further in Mythic HC progression... My friends who are still in retail and are not being hardcore anymore are 10/11 Mythic with over 3 Mannoroth kills just taking it casually...

remember what happens to WoW when blizzard listen to casuals?

step your game up or search for another realm tbh

Keep it buffed, highly appreciate the buffs.
It will actually feel good to achieve something on Lord.

oh no, they're gonna make me min/max my class!!!!!!!!!

Zenjuro; you sound like a ****ing moron. Mythic raiding is harder than any installment of PVE previously found in WoW. Denying that fact makes you an *****, not some hardcore expert.

Yes the HP buffs are nice for those of us who are going to want a challenge in terms of min/maxing dps etc. but trying to use the, "LIVE WOW IS FOR CASUALS HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH LOOK AT US WE'RE SO GOOD!!!" when you're raiding 8 year old content just makes you sound like a ****ing nause.

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Originally Posted by wedemboys

oh no, they're gonna make me min/max my class!!!!!!!!!

Zenjuro; you sound like a ****ing moron. Mythic raiding is harder than any installment of PVE previously found in WoW. Denying that fact makes you an *****, not some hardcore expert.

Yes the HP buffs are nice for those of us who are going to want a challenge in terms of min/maxing dps etc. but trying to use the, "LIVE WOW IS FOR CASUALS HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH LOOK AT US WE'RE SO GOOD!!!" when you're raiding 8 year old content just makes you sound like a ****ing nause.

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exactly what i think about the "I want Hardcore ppl" here :D +1
If you want Hardcore -> go Retail. But i think you CANT cause you to bad for Mythic raiding :)

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Originally Posted by Zwox

exactly what i think about the "I want Hardcore ppl" here :D +1
If you want Hardcore -> go Retail. But i think you CANT cause you to bad for Mythic raiding :)

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I've done the whole "Hardcore" raiding thing on retail... Raid are not hard it's just bad players or raid leader in your team who ****s up that make it hard.

At least here we have a scripted challenge, that even the most skilled of teams will struggle with.
I mean take the top retail guilds. it took them 2 raid IDs into Mythic progression to kill Mythic Archimonde.

You are trying to tell me that 2 weeks of progression on Mythic is equal to the month or so it's going to take here to kill KT? And thats just the 2 guilds (Cookie/Paradox) on the realm, let alone all the other guilds behind.

we have a scripted DPS challenge. that's it. stop trying to make it more than it is lol.

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Originally Posted by wedemboys

we have a scripted DPS challenge. that's it. stop trying to make it more than it is lol.

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Have you even tested any encounters on the PTR since they were buffed in preparation for launch?

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Originally Posted by Kemii

I've done the whole "Hardcore" raiding thing on retail... Raid are not hard it's just bad players or raid leader in your team who ****s up that make it hard.

At least here we have a scripted challenge, that even the most skilled of teams will struggle with.
I mean take the top retail guilds. it took them 2 raid IDs into Mythic progression to kill Mythic Archimonde.

You are trying to tell me that 2 weeks of progression on Mythic is equal to the month or so it's going to take here to kill KT? And thats just the 2 guilds (Cookie/Paradox) on the realm, let alone all the other guilds behind.

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You say you are on the Same Skill Level with Paragon? RLY ???? :D

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Originally Posted by Aiovous

Have you even tested any encounters on the PTR since they were buffed in preparation for launch?

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Just curious, in what other way have they made the encounters different than buffing the health of the bosses?

you're still trying to make it sound like its more than a DPS/Healing challenge.

also; It took Method just under 3 weeks to kill Archimonde, with over 450 pulls on Archimonde alone.

Please, stop trying to compare 8 year old content to current WoW content.

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Originally Posted by Zwox

exactly what i think about the "I want Hardcore ppl" here :D +1
If you want Hardcore -> go Retail. But i think you CANT cause you to bad for Mythic raiding :)

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hahah you both must be insane. If you for example think that Mythic raiding is harder then for example Kael'thas or Lady Vashj and many other TBC raids. All you have to do is use stupid google, and look at dates that bosses died in past and now. How long it took top PvE to clear whole content, compared to time they clear it now.

Some examples.. top wow guilds needed 13 days ! ****ing 13 days, from release to kill nightbane in kara ! In kara!
Magtheridon died after 6 weeks from release
Lady Vashj died after wait for it... TWO and half months after they relese it.
Kael'thas died after around 4 mounts from release ! ****ing 4 months ! There was BT out before any guild in the world killed Kael'thas...yes there was next tier content update from blizzard before any guild in the world killed all bosses on previous tier content..

You have simple no idea what you are talking abouth. And remmember its was not some pugs try's. All top guilds tired it, and they all failed hard for so long.

You compare it to some streamers viewers pugs that make mythics now lol, without any problems.

So in short. Nothing in wow was harder then TBC raids.

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Originally Posted by Touchooo

Just curious, in what other way have they made the encounters different than buffing the health of the bosses?

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All mechanics deal x% more damage, all adds involved in the encounter have x% base damage increase (i.e 2 shot non tanks), all add HP has been increased, more spawn (within mechanic limits), Base Boss melee damage substantially buffed (can one shot tanks, even on pull).

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Originally Posted by kupeczka

Some examples.. top wow guilds needed 13 days ! ****ing 13 days, from release to kill nightbane in kara ! In kara!
Magtheridon died after 6 weeks from release
Lady Vashj died after wait for it... TWO and half months after they relese it.
Kael'thas died after around 4 mounts from release ! ****ing 4 months ! There was BT out before any guild in the world killed Kael'thas...yes there was content update from blizzard before any guild in the world killed all bosses on previous content..

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You know why? Cause they where unkillable. You never played TBC right?

Kupeczka: Lemme give you a little perspective.

Vis Maior had the world first vanilla Patchwerk kill and they had rogues who wouldn't slice n dice, nor stacked warriors.

Simple fact is we have a far better understanding of the game these days. Min/Maxing is not difficult.

Compare time until killed for old contend against new bs.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vYXMIti8aQw