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You're clueless if you think double solace isn't bis for mages - and by your own admission in this quote, mages didn't use and wouldn't get double solace for the reasons you just mentioned. Ergo, any mage that donates has a significant advantage over mages that don't.Quote:
Originally Posted by Funkymusic
Just one specific example to illustrate my point, mr. superior retail knowledge.
Just replying to last part. Funky is absolutely right all the gear in the world doesn't mean anything to experience, mechanics knowing your class, rotations and so on a lot of things play into being a good player none of them have to do with gear.Quote:
Originally Posted by Funkymusic
Honestly I don't think being able to donate for a current tiers gear is not a good thing.
In my opinion (and that is all it is) if gear is going to be on the cash shop on a progressive server it should be 1 tier behind and should only be the entry gear into that tier. By that I mean, let's say the server has up to and including Ulduar released then the cash shop has Naxx/Maly/OS 10man gear for sale.
This way people who just join the realm or have alts they wanna throw money at have a catch up mechanic to be ready for Ulduar but not already overgeared for it.
My 2 cents.
The only solution which is fair and would makes sence is, to enable donating gear of a content 1 oder 2 months after the firstkill of this content was done.
so nobody ever can buy the necessary gear to clear a raid the first time. If a noobguild clears icc25 nhc e.g. they all buy 25hc full gear sponsored by daddy and easily kill icc25 heroic. Theres no sence, for me. not on a Hardcore Realm, where raids get buff to get a more interesting progress.
buy gear and you skip the real game, it should be called pay too lose.. and besides its not really an advantage when all serverfirst titels are taken, everything is cleared etc
There we go. Warmane is selling Naxx 10 + T7 on the Store :)
only a matter of time and the Price drops and we have P2W :)
I don't really think that the game will be pay to win even if some people donate. (Yes I am against donation and would love to see a full non donor/vote realm). But as long as the gear is possible to get for the people who does not donate, its kinda like the donors just have been playing for a longer time and farmed the gear... Hope I explained it good enough :pQuote:
Originally Posted by RealMunken
well that didn't take long, glad i only go to level 32
Achieving the best gear in the game is the main goal of wow, everyone is going mainly for items with every new content. Buying best in slot gear is like buying the final status, the win, while others have to go a long way to get there.
In progressive PvE and overall PvP gear is a major factor. Getting to donate the best items is pay to win in these cases. A full donated ICC 277/284-Raid will snack the firstkills within hours while non donating guilds will have to struggle months to get there. In PvP, if the best PvP-Set is buyable, every non paying player willl be as a disadvantage for like half a year until they got the same pieces. At that time the season might be over or others skyrocketed too high already and money won again.
I would really recommend that best in slot gear will never be obtainable so achievements in PvP and PvE will never become devalued by donations. Maybe even the T1 equip should be introduced delayed so PvE-progression will not become a pay-to-win model.
with darkmoon, some world drops like the bell trink and t7 in the coin shop, it is heading to p2w, sure the majority of the best gear is not out there but t7 and some bis trinkets are in the market place, and tbh i dont think the price is exactly high considering most of the players that have played dw/rag/ other realms have stock piled on coins and sitting on a good 200-300+ coins from old days broken marketplace and trash events, pretty much everyone gonna be sporting bis trinkets again
aaaaaaaaaaaaaand here we go :) this is ruining expirience so much...but whatever we wrote here,devs don't care...I thought this is really gonna be some hardcore expirience...
The **** are you asking for? ZERO donate-able items? Are you going to start paying them $15/month, along with everyone else? No? Didn't think so. That's the validity of your statement here.Quote:
Originally Posted by Uzihunter
slow down man...I wrote dozen of posts here in this topic and explained myself...I understand there needs to be donations,but naxx is cleared by few guilds now,so people who have money can buy full gear,bis trinket (DM) and be ahead all people who struggle...donations should help to catch up in next tier with latest tier,I understand that...but this?? in this buffed naxx with donated gear you will be sooo much ahead...c'mon...use your head...Quote:
Originally Posted by Lynea
This server has always been pay to win, just maybe not to the extreme that Deathwing and Ragnaros are at.
In my opinion any currently level (so no 80 anything) weapons and armor should not be in the store, however it is the staff's decision to put them there and I doubt that will change considering their other servers.
At the end of the day, we are all slaves to our greed.