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it's so funny when on almost every page someone asks for pvp and somebody said: you 2 can get out with your opinion. Taking into account the fact that many, seeing that this is a pve x5 realm, simply left, and when asked about world bosses and pvp, they prefer to remain silent about them.

can someone answer this please?

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Originally Posted by chika23

it's so funny when on almost every page someone asks for pvp and somebody said: you 2 can get out with your opinion. Taking into account the fact that many, seeing that this is a pve x5 realm, simply left, and when asked about world bosses and pvp, they prefer to remain silent about them.

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Wow...I don't think I've seen anything further from the truth posted in the last week. You like gaslighting people?

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Originally Posted by chika23

and when asked about world bosses and pvp, they prefer to remain silent about them.

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Has been answered gorillion of times

1) It has never been the issue on vanilla PvE servers and it won't be here :)
2) Make world bosses encounter automatically flag you with PvP
3) Who gives 2 sheets about world bosses that much?
4) None of those "le epic world boss fights" that you picture in your head is gonna actually happen in reality. In reality, even if server will be PvP one raid will just run to boss, zerg it, and HS out.

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Originally Posted by LezChap1

Wow...I don't think I've seen anything further from the truth posted in the last week. You like gaslighting people?

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I like people who cannot understand that if there is a pvp server with x1-x3, then there will still be 12k online + queues. I like even more those who think that those who want a pvp server are 2-3 people, although on a bunch of pages people talk about pvp, and even more people simply abandoned the idea of ????playing on this realm. Btw about gaslighting , where i did that if players who want pvp is minority in your opinion. Sfhuf
in your opinion. Sfhuf

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Originally Posted by chika23

I like people who cannot understand that if there is a pvp server with x1-x3, then there will still be 12k online + queues. I like even more those who think that those who want a pvp server are 2-3 people, although on a bunch of pages people talk about pvp, and even more people simply abandoned the idea of ????playing on this realm. Btw about gaslighting , where i did that if players who want pvp is minority in your opinion. Sfhuf
in your opinion. Sfhuf

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For every example of someone saying they'll leave if it's not PvP/is PvE, you'll have another saying the opposite. It's the same handful of people on both sides of the debate, you act like there's a vast difference in numbers arguing for PvP compared to the handful for PvE. You say those that advocate for PvE don't address things like World Bosses...when we have, repeatedly.

You're blatantly lying, and sour you got called out on it.

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Originally Posted by chika23

I like people who cannot understand that if there is a pvp server with x1-x3, then there will still be 12k online + queues.

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I'll also note...the server will be 12k peek with queues at launch regardless of if the server is 1x or 5x...and regardless of if the server is PvP or PvE. I advocate for PvE because I think it'll lead to a more fun and healthier player experience for the duration the server. I honestly believe that, and I point to the evidence that supports that opinion. I get that others disagree with me. I think they're wrong, though many of them are in as honest in their belief as I am in mine. I also think there's a number of PvP proponents that are gankers trying to make sure they have prey, and I consider gankers worthless bullies.

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Originally Posted by LezChap1

For every example of someone saying they'll leave if it's not PvP/is PvE, you'll have another saying the opposite. It's the same handful of people on both sides of the debate, you act like there's a vast difference in numbers arguing for PvP compared to the handful for PvE. You say those that advocate for PvE don't address things like World Bosses...when we have, repeatedly.

You're blatantly lying, and sour you got called out on it.

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Facepalm, if u cant undersand what I wrote . I wrote that many people say that those who prefer a pvp server are not 2-3 people. And
tell me where I said that pve players don’t follow world bosses .
I asked what the system of battle for world bosses would be and the fact that no one answered me this question before (you can scroll through a couple of pages to make sure of this) What about you: I was just making fun of the way you used the word ''gaslighting'' without having any idea what exactly it means, but don’t worry, there are millions like you these days

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Originally Posted by chika23

Facepalm, if u cant undersand what I wrote . I wrote that many people say that those who prefer a pvp server are not 2-3 people. And
tell me where I said that pve players don’t follow world bosses .
I asked what the system of battle for world bosses would be and the fact that no one answered me this question before (you can scroll through a couple of pages to make sure of this) What about you: I was just making fun of the way you used the word ''gaslighting'' without having any idea what exactly it means, but don’t worry, there are millions like you these days

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Either there's a MAJOR language barrier here...or you're continuing to gaslight.

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Originally Posted by LezChap1

I'll also note...the server will be 12k peek with queues at launch regardless of if the server is 1x or 5x...and regardless of if the server is PvP or PvE. I advocate for PvE because I think it'll lead to a more fun and healthier player experience for the duration the server. I honestly believe that, and I point to the evidence that supports that opinion. I get that others disagree with me. I think they're wrong, though many of them are in as honest in their belief as I am in mine. I also think there's a number of PvP proponents that are gankers trying to make sure they have prey, and I consider gankers worthless bullies.

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As I wrote: I like people who cannot understand that if there is a pvp server with x1-x3, then there will STILL be 12k online + queues. STILL man
So I advise you to read more carefully before accusing people of lying. I was especially surprised by your words that I wrote something farthest from the truth over the last week, which should mean that you have been reading this thread for at least the last week, but you didn’t notice how someone wrote that the opinion of 2 pvp players should not be taken into account which is why I actually wrote about this.

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Originally Posted by LezChap1

Either there's a MAJOR language barrier here...or you're continuing to gaslight.

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In contemporary language, gaslighting is a colloquialism describing the subjective experience of having one's reality repeatedly questioned by another. Merriam Webster cites deception of one's memory, perception of reality, or mental stability.(first page of google) Or someone does not understand the difference between reality and subjectivity. I don’t see the point in continuing a conversation with such a stubborn person who does not admit his mistakes and
and accuses others of lying.

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Originally Posted by chika23

As I wrote: I like people who cannot understand that if there is a pvp server with x1-x3, then there will STILL be 12k online + queues. STILL man
So I advise you to read more carefully before accusing people of lying. I was especially surprised by your words that I wrote something farthest from the truth over the last week, which should mean that you have been reading this thread for at least the last week, but you didn’t notice how someone wrote that the opinion of 2 pvp players should not be taken into account which is why I actually wrote about this.

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What you think you're saying, and what you're saying in the context of the conversation of this thread, are vastly different. You said:

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I like people who cannot understand that if there is a pvp server with x1-x3, then there will still be 12k online + queues.

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after advocating for a PVP ruleset. The way this is worded implies that PvP is the way to achieve the "pop cap with queue" result, and the rest of us don't understand that, and going PvE won't achieve that. If that's not actually what you honestly meant, then there's a big difference between what you're saying and what you think you're saying...what I generally call "a language barrier" (of some sort).

Are you generating this text with chatGPT or what? Most of it makes zero sense

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Originally Posted by chika23

In contemporary language, gaslighting is a colloquialism describing the subjective experience of having one's reality repeatedly questioned by another. Merriam Webster cites deception of one's memory, perception of reality, or mental stability.(first page of google) Or someone does not understand the difference between reality and subjectivity. I don’t see the point in continuing a conversation with such a stubborn person who does not admit his mistakes and
and accuses others of lying.

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Dont worry man you are not the first, I gave up trying to discuss this myself, waste of time. Our opinions wont change what warmane does anyway, although I cant see at all, how could making this server PVE a good business decision.

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Originally Posted by kravicka200

I cant see at all, how could making this server PVE a good business decision.

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I mean, you might be right there...forced and excessive, unrepentant PvP when just trying to play -may- force people to purchase gear in order to just survive the repeated assaults and harassments.