What does Sargeras need?

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Originally Posted by XxNotoriousxX

Sunday was most fun in probably last 2-3 months! :P

Really looking forward to more :) I want to try 15v15, but if it doesn't work, then we have to kick 5 people, so I guess 10v10 is best we have.

If you guys have 10 more interested, I'm sure we can get another 10 and run 2 rated's side by side? I felt bad having to tell people that we had no room :(

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You forget we are not a PvP guild hehe, most our players don't own PvP gear at all.
If our whole Roster was PvP players we could do this all the time :P

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Originally Posted by Fernlox

You forget we are not a PvP guild hehe, most our players don't own PvP gear at all.
If our whole Roster was PvP players we could do this all the time :P

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Oh, I was under impression you had more people to bring @_@

I managed to get a total of 14 or 15 players to play in our BG's, but still said no to a large amount (at least 10 @_@).

Oh well, maybe with DS HC cleared, more people will turn to pvp for fun, and we can then run double bg's :)

Most likelly gonna go MoP, judging on guild chat rarelly any1 plans to stay cata for long :)

aaand you'll most likely stick back to cata in the long run. mop is just garbage, trust me.

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Originally Posted by Indivision

aaand you'll most likely stick back to cata in the long run. mop is just garbage, trust me.

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you obviously didn't raid in MoP.

I would gladly join Psychopathic as an import for Rateds. XD.

since no one wnted or was able to answer me whenever i asked them "what is good dps in hc" i try it here. i am seeing alot of these lately but no one ever could answer me this -.-

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Originally Posted by Holybuttplug

since no one wnted or was able to answer me whenever i asked them "what is good dps in hc" i try it here. i am seeing alot of these lately but no one ever could answer me this -.-

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Anything above 45k on all bosses is good.

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Originally Posted by holybuttplug

since no one wnted or was able to answer me whenever i asked them "what is good dps in hc" i try it here. I am seeing alot of these lately but no one ever could answer me this -.-

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Originally Posted by Fernlox

Anything above 45k on all bosses is good.

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not want to sound offensive or anything but i watched some of your guilds videos.... does that mean everyone is below good there ?

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Originally Posted by Holybuttplug

not want to sound offensive or anything but i watched some of your guilds videos.... does that mean everyone is below good there ?

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shots fired
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ah4VQXe8YqU

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Originally Posted by Holybuttplug

not want to sound offensive or anything but i watched some of your guilds videos.... does that mean everyone is below good there ?

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Re watch the videos then. Our guild players need to prove nothing. Our guild is excellent and so are our players since they make the guild.

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Originally Posted by ilyanah

This is where you will find that I am a god at explaining things.

I have a hunter I made a long time ago, you can view it's gear here Shintenduchi, I still have green and blue pvp gear.
And I test this on a lvl 1 dummy so there would be no damage mitigation whatsoever.

First off, lets take a look at Aimed Shot.
So the formula for this is very simple.
White dmg (100% weapon damage) + 60% more damage + 5658 = result

So I'm going to give you a baseline on where it all starts.

3951 as weapon damage, we would just add 60% more for Aimed Shot because 3951 is already 100% weapon damage.

Lets use calculator then add.
3951 + 60% = 6321.6
6321.6 + 5658 = 11979.6

So the damage output of aimed shot should be 11980 or somewhere very close to that.
but no, here is your aimed shot damage.

15,468!

Aimed shot is overscaling by 40% more damage than what it should. One positive bugged explained but theres more.

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I know that this post is somewhat old but I had to correct your innacurate math, since it's beause of people who report without sufficient research that make the developers waste time on unnecessary/incorrect changes.

Allow me first to direct you to http://forums.elitistjerks.com/topic...ing-questions/ where you will find tested retail formulas aswell as this nugget of gold:

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In many cases the in-game tooltips (and wowhead) give formulas which don't seem to match actual testing. These are the estimated formulas I've established from testing (mostly updated for 4.3).

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This is the formula listed in said page for Aimed Shot:

Aimed Shot - (100% weapon dmg + 72.4% RAP + 776) * 160% + 100

With average weapon damage calculated as avg dmg of the weapon + RAP / 14 * 2.8 ( if shot is normalized, such as Aimed Shot, otherwise replace 2.8 with your weapon's speed ).

So now we can tell that from your previous tooltip formula that 72.4% of your RAP is 5658 which means 100% of your RAP is 7814.917. Also we can derive from your armory profile that the average damage of your weapon is 1419 ( [993 + 1845] / 2 ).

Average Weapon Damage = ( 993 + 1845 ) /2 + 7814.917 /14 * 2.8 = 2981.983

Aimed Shot damage = ( 2981.983 + 5658 + 776 ) * 1.6 + 100 = 15165.573

As you can see, Aimed Shot is actually doing 101.994% the damage it should, far from your previous "40%". Again, I mean no offense, but people should seriously research what they're doing before reporting.

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Originally Posted by Journein

I know that this post is somewhat old but I had to correct your innacurate math, since it's beause of people who report without sufficient research that make the developers waste time on unnecessary/incorrect changes.

Allow me first to direct you to http://forums.elitistjerks.com/topic...ing-questions/ where you will find tested retail formulas aswell as this nugget of gold:


This is the formula listed in said page for Aimed Shot:

Aimed Shot - (100% weapon dmg + 72.4% RAP + 776) * 160% + 100

With average weapon damage calculated as avg dmg of the weapon + RAP / 14 * 2.8 ( if shot is normalized, such as Aimed Shot, otherwise replace 2.8 with your weapon's speed ).

So now we can tell that from your previous tooltip formula that 72.4% of your RAP is 5658 which means 100% of your RAP is 7814.917. Also we can derive from your armory profile that the average damage of your weapon is 1419 ( [993 + 1845] / 2 ).

Average Weapon Damage = ( 993 + 1845 ) /2 + 7814.917 /14 * 2.8 = 2981.983

Aimed Shot damage = ( 2981.983 + 5658 + 776 ) * 1.6 + 100 = 15165.573

As you can see, Aimed Shot is actually doing 101.994% the damage it should, far from your previous "40%". Again, I mean no offense, but people should seriously research what they're doing before reporting.

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I think Ily has already realized her mistake.

However....

OMFG AIMED SHOT OVERSCALES BY 1.994%, MOLTEN NERF IT PLEASE WTF THIS IS SO STUPID!!

<3 Ily I lub you :)

I didn't report anything. Try researching first before you accuse me. I have not reported any other class bugs other than death knights.