[Guide] PvE In depth guide of the Arms Warrior

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Originally Posted by Kevinator

Kel just a question i theorycrafted back a while with arms and saw that slam out weighs hs most of the time.
I tried using rotation without hs and saw slam do alot more after that i did test with just hs and that did less.
I then mixed them and found that if you prio slam before hs when all other abilities are on cd u get better output of damage instead of using hs. This ofc also means i use hs aswell just not when all other abilities are on cd. The slam spam when op/ms/cs are on cd are boosting dps instead of hs.
Got anything to say about this?

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Well the thing is that sometimes you have to use Heroic Strike while using Slam but i would say that its worth to theorycraft but Slam is suppose to do more damage but it does have its + and - if you know what i mean. I would say that maybe you are right and maybe you are wrong. I can't really say that much about it but it is worth a shot to make a ''before'' and ''after'' analytic pic from it :) If it makes your damage higher by all means use it but i think some others want to stay with their gameplay. I dont have much to say then good job finding something like this :)

@ArtificialIntel

To be honest i had not seen that item before and took the items off this list:
http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/3082251798
As well as this one says the same waist:
http://www.mmo-champion.com/threads/...G-4.3-BiS-list

But according to the item you have linked it seems to be smiliar but the other one is better. The item you linked techincally wins over the other one so i would assume that is the BIS item but i took it off these lists and didn't really look more into it since i belived there was no better item to it. I guess you can consider that item BIS also... I'll edit the list :)

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Originally Posted by Kelthuzzad

@ArtificialIntel

To be honest i had not seen that item before and took the items off this list:
http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/3082251798
As well as this one says the same waist:
http://www.mmo-champion.com/threads/...G-4.3-BiS-list

But according to the item you have linked it seems to have the same stats but the diffrence is in the secondary stats. The items you linked techincally wins so i would assume that is the BIS item but i took it off these lists and didn't really look more into it since i belived there was no better item to it. I guess you can consider that item BIS also... I'll edit the list :)

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Yes, the HC Runescriven Demon Collar is technically the BiS belt, but that's retail where the Heroic version of the Demonbone Waistguard was never implimented into the completed version of the patch. Should probably never have mentioned this and reaped the rewards myself, but at least I contributed some for once. :P

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Originally Posted by ArtificialIntel

Yes, the HC Runescriven Demon Collar is technically the BiS belt, but that's retail where the Heroic version of the Demonbone Waistguard was never implimented into the completed version of the patch. Should probably never have mentioned this and reaped the rewards myself, but at least I contributed some for once. :P

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Yeah i see i did not know that at all really! That's prob why it was not mentioned :) Thank you for noticing :D. I think it is a important thing to mention if there is an stronger item then the list it should be replaced to not missinform the players!

Bump cause i can! <3 Met an old friend of mine which was a new fan to me! Oh what wonders the forums can do :)

Little improvement
http://i.imgur.com/vsgqRzn.jpg

op-hs-slam works fine
nice guide Kel

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Originally Posted by mpkimi

Little improvement
http://i.imgur.com/vsgqRzn.jpg

op-hs-slam works fine
nice guide Kel

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Awesome to see dude :) Well don't forget Colossus smash and Mortal strike ;) Thank you and im glad to see you improve man :D

Bump cause i can :D and look at that views! 31k soon 32k :O Hope it helped all those who decided to click it :)

almost did madness yesterday, doing 55k burst, and holding stable 30-32k DPS all fight.
My Armory.
Only thing I replaced -> Neck from Shannox HC also yesterday. Doing that DPS at 384 ilevel. (It's obvious i lied to the raid leader, and said i had 390 D:)

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Originally Posted by Hugolich

almost did madness yesterday, doing 55k burst, and holding stable 30-32k DPS all fight.
My Armory.
Only thing I replaced -> Neck from Shannox HC also yesterday. Doing that DPS at 384 ilevel. (It's obvious i lied to the raid leader, and said i had 390 D:)

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Sweet dude :D Glad your doing a lot of dps but it can become better with more gear and practise ;) Lol about that itemlevel lie :D I'm totally used to that in retail! I lie about it to get into raids that i need loot from XD

Interesting.

I find slam more usefull than your guide provides it.

I;m currently rolling with 398 ilvl (Heart of rage hc + vp trinket) 3/4 set and gurth hc.

at the end of most fights my MS = Slam, usually is 1 - 4 diffrences between them.


on ds 10 I do like 48 - 50 k on ultrax/ 60 - 65 k on madness.

Anyway, nice guilde.

Keep it up.

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Originally Posted by Frostadamus

Interesting.

I find slam more usefull than your guide provides it.

I;m currently rolling with 398 ilvl (Heart of rage hc + vp trinket) 3/4 set and gurth hc.

at the end of most fights my MS = Slam, usually is 1 - 4 diffrences between them.


on ds 10 I do like 48 - 50 k on ultrax/ 60 - 65 k on madness.

Anyway, nice guilde.

Keep it up.

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I think i have mentioned it before that you can experiment of the things that makes your DPS higher :) I remember that someone mentioned the same thing as you did that Slam was better to use then Heroic Strike... Personally use the thing that you feel comfortable with and that you do better DPS with :) That's great! I personally roll with 400 or 401 i belive? That's awesome DPS really! I don't remember my dps but i think it was around that as well :) Thank you for the support and kind words <3

Bump because i can! <3 Bladestorm!!!!

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Originally Posted by Kelthuzzad

Bump because i can! <3 Bladestorm!!!!

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Hey! Are you still playing on frostwolf or you have gone to retail? :cool:

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Originally Posted by Laskko6

Hey! Are you still playing on frostwolf or you have gone to retail? :cool:

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Well bascially neither of them since i dont have time to play any of them haha! XD I mean i am busy with my irl stuff right now like university, drivers license, gym (when i get free time) and also just playing steam games and watching anime so... I don't really have time to invest into wow anymore... I might play WOD once it comes out since i ordered the special edition of it :) But it all depends how the future looks :) I do log to frostwolf once in a while and the same goes for retail but its mostly just to see if any of my friends/old friends are online and just to hang out and check who is online :)

Le bump for dem Arms Warriors!!! <3