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yes, by far. MM needs passive ArP on gear and there is none, grim toll isnt that good either, what u need is mjolnir and a lot of passive arp on your gear so that u can at least reach softcap without gemming too much arp (2-3 max) to be equal to SV atm. just play MM after toc and it will be fine :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Korvan
btw how are restoration shamans doing?
lol you have no clue have u even played both speccs and tested it? mm is by far better even with low arp atm, ive tested both specs and im pushing more 1k dps than survival lmaoQuote:
Originally Posted by smille
not topping the dps charts
Ever since Chimera Shot's fix. At first it was still double-dipping off damage modifiers, which was surprising because I thought it would one of the first things fixed on the new core. Other spells like Frost Strike and Seal of Corruption should probably be investigated too.Quote:
Originally Posted by Korvan
Either way, that's fixed now, and unless there's other bugs at play, Survival outperforming MM and Naxx levels of gear is just as it should be. MM doesn't pull out ahead until you get more Arp and pick up a much better bow.
are u? who can u compare to? do you think all hunters on this server are able to play it perfectly? i will out dps u easily as sv with the same gear which is available atm. if not, then there might either be something buggy with MM or with SV. but yes, SV outperforms MM atm or should, should be equal with ulduar/toc gear and mm gets slightly ahead with ICC/RS gear (around 2k dps @spreadsheet)Quote:
Originally Posted by Korvan
I would love to know the answer to this as well, seeing as I am leveling one for the healing part mostly and elemental as offspec.Quote:
Originally Posted by DrugedAssassin
elemental is the class which deals the least. in 3.3.5 shami was top3 with disci and hpala for sure as for DD go as enhanc, even tho it is a bit more complicated than ele but deal more at least in icc+
When talking about dps of a class / spec, does anyone consider how much they buff the damage of other raid members ?
http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/06/i...lysis-by-spec/
Rogue,mage,mm Hunter
That simply means you don't know how to play SurvivalQuote:
Originally Posted by Korvan
lol survival is actually the spec i can play the best off all hunter specs and its my favorite one, anyways all hunters from the top guilds are playing marksman and averaging 6k+ deeps on tank/spank bosses (patch,instrutor,noth etc) so unless someone here can prove me wrong with some screens or logs instead of saying survival works better at lower gear atm my opinion stays the same heheQuote:
Originally Posted by gorgoyle
mostly all the horde end guild Hunters are survival. Don't know if someone is just showing you funny logs. Check spreadsheets yourself and find out.Quote:
Originally Posted by Korvan
Survival is actually better until you get your hands on an ilvl 226 ranged (due to ranged weapons at this item level jumping up a lot in terms of damage) as well as roughly 250 flat arp. The fact that you push more DPS in MM is great, but just because you do that it does not prove that MM is better. If anything, it proves that you probably can't play SV that well.Quote:
Originally Posted by Korvan
You can't even rely on any old spreadsheets.
We are in T7 Gear with 3.3.5 patch Classbuffs/Nerfs.
Just look up Arcane Mage for example how much better they are compared to 3.0.8 when T7 was current Content.
Just test your stuff on this server and you will probably outperform every stupid hurbdurp my google wow guide 3.3.5 says thats best dps
PS: Dont forget that a few Talents and Spells are not 100% correct working.