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February 13, 2016
lanrien

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Originally Posted by gorgoyle

I levelled 3 toons to 80 and yes i did go to STV on just 1 of them and i did not get ganked by single high level ally, but it was pure pvp with same level guys for me

Either you're forgetting or lying, which I doubt, I'm most surely certain you forgot since it's not something worth remembering at all, but I assure you there are plenty of dicks on both sides.

yes same lvl pvp happens, i personally enjoy a mentality of "we're all leveling" so i usually leave alone unless they're actively camping a mob that I also need, etc, so I only attack those who attack me first. but I don't blame those who actively seek pvp at same level at all, but I assure you that half of those once they die, usually show up with a 80 10 min later, which is what I hate about pvp.
February 13, 2016
gorgoyle

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Originally Posted by lanrien

Either you're forgetting or lying, which I doubt, I'm most surely certain you forgot since it's not something worth remembering at all, but I assure you there are plenty of dicks on both sides.

yes same lvl pvp happens, i personally enjoy a mentality of "we're all leveling" so i usually leave alone unless they're actively camping a mob that I also need, etc, so I only attack those who attack me first. but I don't blame those who actively seek pvp at same level at all, but I assure you that half of those once they die, usually show up with a 80 10 min later, which is what I hate about pvp.

You got plenty of other maps to cover up EXP of STV as Horde, But alliance doesn't have much alternatives for STV
I am not gonna tell my route because i myself am bored from Booty bay things and i follow totally different route to bypass the levels of STV
February 13, 2016
saghha

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Originally Posted by jama1001

Don't understand that I'm complaining about racials, I didn't mention that in any post. Like saggha said before in another topic, ally have much more pvp players, and that is causing a snowball in the way top geared players are denying hords in PvP. That's why I suggested mixing teams in BGs, like AT do. I'd never suggest to change racials >.>

That wouldn't be Blizzard like now would it?
February 13, 2016
jama1001

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Originally Posted by saghha

That wouldn't be Blizzard like now would it?

Blizz like? So why dungeon finder still disabled even when players keep asking for it after all this months?!
February 13, 2016
saghha

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Originally Posted by jama1001

Blizz like? So why dungeon finder still disabled even when players keep asking for it after all this months?!

Because staff said so and disabling RDF doesn't mess with the lore and feel of the game. Please try harder.
February 13, 2016
vieira082

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Originally Posted by jama1001

So why dungeon finder still disabled even when players keep asking for it after all this months?!

and still crybaby
February 13, 2016
Sjokomelkbeast

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Originally Posted by jama1001

Blizz like? So why dungeon finder still disabled even when players keep asking for it after all this months?!

You know that RDF has not been in the game on the blizzard version too? It was pretty new in the WOTLK time...
And there are also a lot of people that do not want the RDF to be enabled. There are people on both sides, so there will always be someone who gets sad. (But off-topic, sorry).
February 14, 2016
00Fly00

FIRST OFF: its really disapointing to see people call crybaby to someone who wants balance in pvp...if you call yourself a true pvp player you never want to win because you re just on a favoured position...so call me crybaby all you want...my mind will just read.."a ****** just quoted my post".

SECOND: If i understand correctly, no one is complaining or crying about the ratials, because we were ALL offered the option to CHOOSE whatever faction we wanted and whoever chose HORDE knew what they were getting into...what is being complained now is that the Alliance players in general are better geared up than Horde Players and that can be due to a random number of situations, my guess is that they picked overall classes that are easier to master on a BG battle situation, or prolly Hords afked like ******s in BGs...or because Alliance have better players overall....

THIRD: [Core of the issue here] The problem is that this well geared Alliance players are creating a snowball situation on BGs that make it hard for ppl that just reached lvl 80 to farm gear, while as if you are alliance and just reached lvl 80 , you re in luck! you will farm the gear easy peasy, 2 weeks tops! just follow the beastly geared players in front of you!...And that, unlike the faction situation isnt fair, because when i choose to play for the Horde i couldnt guess that a couple months later this would be happening...and to be honest, because i consider myself a pvp player..id still be complaining if i were an Alliance, because there is no fun in just following the TRain of Pallys and Warriors full Geared wrecking everyone (averadge it takes 4 players to kill one Paladin before he kills 1 or 2)...

If you can solve the problem easily by making mixed teams on BGs and making it possible for the system to balance teams based on GearScore ...why not? why ignore the awesome winning ratings of the Alliance on BGs and say is "normal" or "okay".

If all you want is to say you re the better faction, for all i care, Alliance wins, you are ****ing beastly awesome, now woopdity doo, lets balance BGs and have fun shall we?...
February 14, 2016
lanrien

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Originally Posted by 00Fly00

FIRST OFF: its really disapointing to see people call crybaby to someone who wants balance in pvp...if you call yourself a true pvp player you never want to win because you re just on a favoured position...so call me crybaby all you want...my mind will just read.."a ****** just quoted my post".

SECOND: If i understand correctly, no one is complaining or crying about the ratials, because we were ALL offered the option to CHOOSE whatever faction we wanted and whoever chose HORDE knew what they were getting into...what is being complained now is that the Alliance players in general are better geared up than Horde Players and that can be due to a random number of situations, my guess is that they picked overall classes that are easier to master on a BG battle situation, or prolly Hords afked like ******s in BGs...or because Alliance have better players overall....

THIRD: [Core of the issue here] The problem is that this well geared Alliance players are creating a snowball situation on BGs that make it hard for ppl that just reached lvl 80 to farm gear, while as if you are alliance and just reached lvl 80 , you re in luck! you will farm the gear easy peasy, 2 weeks tops! just follow the beastly geared players in front of you!...And that, unlike the faction situation isnt fair, because when i choose to play for the Horde i couldnt guess that a couple months later this would be happening...and to be honest, because i consider myself a pvp player..id still be complaining if i were an Alliance, because there is no fun in just following the TRain of Pallys and Warriors full Geared wrecking everyone (averadge it takes 4 players to kill one Paladin before he kills 1 or 2)...

If you can solve the problem easily by making mixed teams on BGs and making it possible for the system to balance teams based on GearScore ...why not? why ignore the awesome winning ratings of the Alliance on BGs and say is "normal" or "okay".

If all you want is to say you re the better faction, for all i care, Alliance wins, you are ****ing beastly awesome, now woopdity doo, lets balance BGs and have fun shall we?...

They could add a custom script to choose same itemlvl average instead of getting the first 80's they can into a bg. So that would make it a bit more fair.
February 14, 2016
00Fly00

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Originally Posted by lanrien

They could add a custom script to choose same itemlvl average instead of getting the first 80's they can into a bg. So that would make it a bit more fair.

I thought about that and , thats a not so dramatic/drastic solution...problem is that, in my opinion, since the overall gear level is so different, what would happen is that low gear Hords would have to wait a LOT for the system to find low gear Allys and ESPECIALLY High Geared Allys would have to wait AGES to find High Geared Hords to be paired with...and by no means i want to make the BG experience bad for those players that Geared up fast and deservedly are having fun on pvp....thats why i truely believe mixed teams is the way to go....

Also let me add that i think that the faction pvp system makes more sense and shines on world pvp, no1 thinks its weird to have ally vs ally or hord vs hord on the Arena, so why would it be that way on BGs?...its PvP custom scenarios and it should be made in a way to boost PvP fun.
February 15, 2016
DakMonkey

So far my BG statistics (small sample size but still)

I play on alliance.

BG: Wins - Loses
Warsong Gulch: 13 - 25
Arathi Basin: 13 - 13
Alterac Valley: 16 - 10
Eye of the Storm: 18 - 15
Strand of the Ancients: not recording stats for w.e. reason

So, from my experience, your 90% lose seems unreal :)
February 15, 2016
00Fly00

TBH tonight im 3-7
Yesterday was 2-8

but usually i win 1 or 2 BGs and lose all the others...some days cant even win one....specially when i enter a loop with same team vs same team which means graveyard camping hardcore mode XD....

but hey! nothing better than someone present us with the real statistics...which i believe only admins have...

PS tonight 3-15

edit 2: 3-18 thats tonight score and the averadge score...ofcourse that Horde Afkers dont help, pretty much lost all games after this one dude came to play and started queueing
February 15, 2016
DarkChaosGR

Idk about you but I won 11 out of 12 EOTS yesterday.
February 15, 2016
00Fly00

Well i invite the Admins to display the official numbers...because everyone on BG chat says the same, they are tired of losing...and its after a certain time its always same team vs same team....

and also like i said, even if the Horde wins 99% of the BGs then i still say the same, balance, mix teams and base teams on GearScore because all i want is balance, i dont want Horde to be super favoured.
February 15, 2016
saghha

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Originally Posted by 00Fly00

Well i invite the Admins to display the official numbers...because everyone on BG chat says the same, they are tired of losing...and its after a certain time its always same team vs same team....

and also like i said, even if the Horde wins 99% of the BGs then i still say the same, balance, mix teams and base teams on GearScore because all i want is balance, i dont want Horde to be super favoured.

Lol you are the biggest cry baby i have ever scene, lol. Some body change this guys diaper before he really starts to stink up the forums. Grow up man, life's not fair. If you wanna a better chance at winning bg's then queue with your mates and make friends. Premading was easy in WoTLk. No Horde PvP guilds? Make one, but please for the love god and everything holy, shut up and stop crying all the time. Your attitude about all this is making horde players look horrible and right about now I wanna faction change my Belf Dk just so I don't have to play on the same faction as you.

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