Concern with the realm.

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Originally Posted by Urmomdotcom

Nelth bads being unable to keep their 1800 r1's.

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Why would you say that, unless you're the one that's having trouble going above 1800 here?

OT: +1 for the merge.

temporary wsng -> nelth transfers until at core comes in, then nelth -> wsng transfers afterwards.

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Originally Posted by Urmomdotcom

Nelth bads being unable to keep their 1800 r1's.

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And yet the current highest rated Feral on both brackets on WSG is a 'Nelth bad'. Im sure Nelth don't give a **** about the competition (Which ain't even that high) that would come over if the merge happened and I'm pretty sure they won't give a **** if it meant more queues.

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Originally Posted by Pallzdani

Agreed about the grinding and ****, but if a merge was to happen why do you think you would have to go through the grinding and levelling again? The whole point of merges is to keep character databases. And I said what I said because he was making out that those are really important aspects of PvP...yet they're doing just fine without it now.

I honestly believe I'm the only one who is tryign to keep queues as active as possible for both servers...whereas you guys are so stuck to the idea of AT core being superior to bring, what, maybe 400 people back...if that. While merging the toon realms combines Nelth higher overall population with Warsongs pure PvP population...What can actually be so bad about it>.>

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free faction change and cds reset after duels should be a necessity on a PVP ONLY server... Pretty obvious there. Erm what if you wanted to make a new character and had to grind? since it will be merging with nelth it wouldnt be insta max level...

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Originally Posted by rangerjmt

The whole point of an insta max level server is so that people who dont give two ****s about pve leveling, which is easy and boring as **** can do the only fun thing on wow which is go straight into pvp. When you get to max level you think oh yes im finally able to pvp jk no not at all u still need to grind with **** blues and greens until you have enough honor for a full set then maybe go into arena. And I really dont understand why you have written "Yap because you totally have CD reset and Free faction change at the minute" he said he wanted it because thats what AT was before, so why are you saying it like that lmao?

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so your saying regardless that its "easy" i leveled 1 - 85 in 23 hours game played you'd rather take 20-30 min queus in arenas rather than instant queues with much more population? thats some moronic logic my friend.. everyone has to grind for gear and tbh you sound like a b*tch because i leveled a 2nd hunter with full blues ( i know very well how to play hunter ) and i did fine with a premade and got fully geared in 3 months. <-- was SO HARD *sarcasm*

the real question is would you rather pvp with 70 people or 500+ ... i think any PvP'er with an IQ of 1 would be able to answer this correctly.. ive seen the population at night time and you dont even have 35 people online how the f*ck do you guys even do BGs? literally 75% of your population is gone compared to nelths 30%

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Originally Posted by Pallzdani

Well to break your points down:
How do you know they won't let you keep your gear? Even if Warsong players earnt their gear differently to Nelth players, you still earnt it and it should not be taken away.
I have 0 interest in gold farming or any of that crap. I log in, afk till there is queues happening, do some games then afk/log off. Not once do I bother to go farming and I have 7 full geared and full enchanted and gemmed toons.
Yes because SoloQ is totally going to happen, Kappa. Theres more outdoor PvP on nelth than Wsg. Have you not seen all the posts on the forums involving Gurubashi Arena/ Tol Barad / Uldum wars between alli and horde?
There is a better chance to get a bugless core if they only had one core to work on, yet if they ever did add AT core then that means workign with two. Different fixes, double the total bugs for Warmane to fix.
Voting for months straight for one piece of transmog gear without wanting to blow your brains out, is the biggest challenge around imo.
Yap because you totally have CD reset and Free faction change at the minute.

I honestly believe you should get the whole AT core idea out of your head. One of two things will happen, Either they just never get round to it for whatever reasons or they add it in over a year+ which by then there would be like 20 of you on Wsg. I thought it was meant to be PvP addicts on Wsg that would do anything for faster queues in 3's...even if it meant some workarounds, but I mainly see Nelth players trying to do that...

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You really dont get it.. AT core does not need fixes like molten core does. This is the main reason behind the need of the core swap...
Outdoor pvp imo when you can Q for 20 v 20 battles or FFA battles or you can join to Sunwell outdoor pvp without any coordination with the opposite fraction means you can Q anytime.
You wouldnt need to vote for your transmogs, you could work for them.
+ many other better things the coreswap could bring to the table.. but still no sign that they are willing to improve Warsong or do anything at all so...

The queues on neltharion are a JOKE. Let us xfer our characters to warsong like the past 3 years before moltdown and maybe there will be more activity. I don't see what would be so hard to do that considering about 6 months ago there was a 3 day period you could do this.

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Originally Posted by JuicyJay

so your saying regardless that its "easy" i leveled 1 - 85 in 23 hours game played you'd rather take 20-30 min queus in arenas rather than instant queues with much more population? thats some moronic logic my friend.. everyone has to grind for gear and tbh you sound like a b*tch because i leveled a 2nd hunter with full blues ( i know very well how to play hunter ) and i did fine with a premade and got fully geared in 3 months. <-- was SO HARD *sarcasm*

the real question is would you rather pvp with 70 people or 500+ ... i think any PvP'er with an IQ of 1 would be able to answer this correctly.. ive seen the population at night time and you dont even have 35 people online how the f*ck do you guys even do BGs? literally 75% of your population is gone compared to nelths 30%

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instant ques good 1 maybe on 1550 all my chars are 2650+ and i wait 10 min unless i snipe someone and they don't dodge nelth is a joke in general they should open transfers to warsong and people who want balanced pvp without heroic items will xfer

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Originally Posted by Serenebladez

instant ques good 1 maybe on 1550 all my chars are 2650+ and i wait 10 min unless i snipe someone and they don't dodge nelth is a joke in general they should open transfers to warsong and people who want balanced pvp without heroic items will xfer

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Or this^

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Originally Posted by rangerjmt

free faction change and cds reset after duels should be a necessity on a PVP ONLY server... Pretty obvious there. Erm what if you wanted to make a new character and had to grind? since it will be merging with nelth it wouldnt be insta max level...

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If you want a new character then make one (or more) of every class and transfer them? Then you wouldn't need to ever level again.

A transfer is a bad idea because It's instant 85, with no working for the starting pvp gear. If you wanna do PVP you should just move to nelth (like I did) and get an 85, and start pvping. It's not as dead as you think. I always see people on nelth LF arenas, and BG's are insta popped.

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Originally Posted by rocketshipace

A transfer is a bad idea because It's instant 85, with no working for the starting pvp gear. If you wanna do PVP you should just move to nelth (like I did) and get an 85, and start pvping. It's not as dead as you think. I always see people on nelth LF arenas, and BG's are insta popped.

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no because once you transfer into warsong you can't transfer back .

CDs reset and the option to full bgs with Neltharion's Players. I said it for the horde side, just look in the Information Tab warsong daily has an average 220 (160 alliance and 60 horde).
I don't think those options are difficult to implement.

Realm is becoming more dire everyday, merge it already.

Merge or re-enable transfers from neltharion FFS

+1 !! I browse the forums once in a blue moon and i came to open a thread about this. Seems like the right thing to do, people on Warsong also worked their asz off for their gear, but if they want to limit warsong characters that's fine too.
Warsong was fun and quick and everything, but you can't PVP by yourself