BG QUE wait time on upcoming Icecrown

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Originally Posted by Stonesourqt

I had a situation for a couple of times when AV is missing players and a new bg opens up,while the ongoing AV is about to close itself.
That's certainly not up on players to fix.Not my intention to point fingers,but the problems.

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It's a problem you clowns are making with your 5+ premades.

When a group of 5 ques as a party, the server will be forced to que 5 people on the other side. It can't be 1 by 1, 5 ppl must enter, and it's fvcking up your que because there are no horde premades to counter you.

An even worse thing that Warbringers are doing is queing with PreformAV, which allows them to actually force open a new BG, but if 9 out of 10 ppl get the que, they will not enter it, and horde will have a BG with 9 people missing, while alliance will have the 10 required.

P.S. The balkan donkeys (bringers) should que as 2 separate party groups at the same time and do everyone a favour, because, as a group of 5+, you CAN actually make an even greater imbalance in BGs.

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Originally Posted by Mchaplain

When a group of 5 ques as a party, the server will be forced to que 5 people on the other side. It can't be 1 by 1, 5 ppl must enter.

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Not really true.

I don't understand all these posts anymore lol...
Yes alliance have to wait longer, as the alliance PvPers outnumber the horde ones. Yes, you are all aware of this fact and most are probably aware of the fact ALOT of said alliance players used to be horde ones but moved for a myriad of reasons. Battlegrounds are controlled by the people in game and the balance will best be fixed by those in game.
There is even a FREE option to faction change if you dislike your experience on either side, for the simple effort of 5 seconds a day you can vote on the site and acquire the points to faction change. Maybe free faction changes would help and maybe not, but honestly if people want something fixed do it yourself. Losing on horde? Carry harder or find a group to carry you. Dislike your wait time on ally? Solo Q for a shorter wait or move to horde for an even shorter wait time.

See you in BG's friends :)

Point out the obvious.The bg que system has to to be fixed for the reasons stated up there.I also had a situation of another bg opening while av is about to close.
We already went to horde,the whole 100 bunch of us and it split the group big time.A group of people who played together for at least couple of years.Some of them want to remain alliance due to arena reasons or whatever the case.Not to recall all the coins/vote it costed at a time,even tho it being only 10.Now transfering with these 30 points isnt any solution.One is getting 1 point daily,while the other is getting 0.4.It would take 3 months to transfer.
Our side,we did help balance it once,when noone gave a single **** about so it's not a trashtalk.
I can not come up with solution since at first It's not my job to do,but I certainly do hope so the ones whose job it is,that they can.

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Originally Posted by WashingtonCaps

Not really true.

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You seem to not understand what I'm saying.

Let's say there's an AB running. It's 15 H vs 12 A. 5 man ally premade will sink to the bottom of the que because they can't enter that BG, and the server will pick players 1 by 1, therefore, people queing as 5 will cry about long ques.

You also need to take into account people that have qued but are afk and aren't entering the BG, and with the "Enter Queue" window lasting 1 minute it can add up quite nicely .. Just imagine 3 people queing for that 15v12 BG.. All 3 are afk but they qued roughly at the same time.. The server will invite 1 by 1, after they all missed their que, in other words, it adds another 3 minutes to whoever is in the que after them. Add ALL that up, and you get long ques.

People roll/faction change to Alliance for easy mode RBG's to be on the winning side and faceroll lowbies and complain about the long queue times? Either change to Horde so you get instant BG's or qq please and the merger won't fix the problem either so just deal with it. You don't see Horde making threads about how awful their win lose ratio is in BG's and WG.

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Originally Posted by Mchaplain

It's a problem you clowns are making with your 5+ premades.

When a group of 5 ques as a party, the server will be forced to que 5 people on the other side. It can't be 1 by 1, 5 ppl must enter, and it's fvcking up your que because there are no horde premades to counter you.

An even worse thing that Warbringers are doing is queing with PreformAV, which allows them to actually force open a new BG, but if 9 out of 10 ppl get the que, they will not enter it, and horde will have a BG with 9 people missing, while alliance will have the 10 required.

P.S. The balkan donkeys (bringers) should que as 2 separate party groups at the same time and do everyone a favour, because, as a group of 5+, you CAN actually make an even greater imbalance in BGs.

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Why there is so much hate on us here? You have elaborated the subject as if we are at fault.
The only reason there is an imbalance is that horde dn't have an alternative guild to Warbringers and peekaboo...
If Horde had a 30 plus pvp members forming another guild force, it would restore the balance definitely, nevertheless i am not a coward to make an appeal for alliance pvp guilds to transfer , they have their own foundation history. If their roots are alliance so be it , i respect their leaders to keep their alliance roots.

Often i play solo with Horde PUGS, u can see the difference clearly, i can top the kills, damge, caps , the second would be miles apart, not to mention the hate on me if i am alone lmao .
The only fault here is Horde Side itself, 1 elite guild is not active okay let it be , but it is sad there is no other alternative, there could be but no real leaders, suddenly they xfer to alliance and now whine for long queues, but saying to themselves, " Stay safe on alliance , we are winning over low horde GS and let us hope we dn't face a 10 man Warbringers premade" There is PURE HYPOCRISY, and pathetic cowardice...

We dn't want to be heroes , we play our games casually with friends. Everyone take their responsibility , whoever wants to play on safe side having long queues , or the harder side, shorter queues.
Imagine if we transferred , i also like to be allliance, being a night elf hunter, my favourite race.

P.S Mr Mchaplain, for u to be a racist on balkan players , mind you all the best pvp guilds are lead by them(valar,poke,rudolf,warb), sad for you to hate them. Btw I'm from Mauritius Island and the guild multinational from various parts of the world.
We can't do that favour you asking, we play as we like and be hated for a reason.

Why don't warmane do merged bgs like having mix of horde/alliance. bg will pop significantly quicker.

Because it entirely defeats the purpose of Alliance vs Horde.

Not to be rude,I don't give a single * about the win/lose ration.It somehow always did balance itself.You eventually do win a couple of games daily,but waiting in ques for half n hour is just not the way.To say I am not complaining,I'd lie.I have been around since the early days and eventually even to the long ques,I would long time to time,but definitely,I would not play this game any close to being active,just like everyone in my guild and many more people who are facing this issue.If merging the bgs with a mix of factions would come be a solution,I'd totally go with it.(Even tho I don't like this idea,I'd rather play than stay in ques anyhow).If there is way(which there always is),cheers,all the better.If there's not a solution to it,whatever,certainly not for better.
Time to see.

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Originally Posted by Stonesourqt

Not to be rude,I don't give a single * about the win/lose ration.It somehow always did balance itself.You eventually do win a couple of games daily,but waiting in ques for half n hour is just not the way.To say I am not complaining,I'd lie.I have been around since the early days and eventually even to the long ques,I would long time to time,but definitely,I would not play this game any close to being active,just like everyone in my guild and many more people who are facing this issue.If merging the bgs with a mix of factions would come be a solution,I'd totally go with it.(Even tho I don't like this idea,I'd rather play than stay in ques anyhow).If there is way(which there always is),cheers,all the better.If there's not a solution to it,whatever,certainly not for better.
Time to see.

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Fair enough you won't win every single BG on either faction you will lose from time to time but the perception was Alliance wins more then Horde so naturally the people who wanted to take the easy route, for racials or more active PvP, went Alliance some just rerolled because friends were on Alliance side. But the idea of Warmane of merging factions to balance queue times for Alliance won't happen and shouldn't happen. This is not Blackrock.

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Originally Posted by Thydus

Because it entirely defeats the purpose of Alliance vs Horde.

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Nobody cares alrdy, i've seen Alliance stomping Orgrimmar and Horde did not give a **** and same in Alliance .. so the cross faction bg might solve the problem apparently. Does blizzard has cross-faction bgs? if so .. it'd be a nice suggestion to consider.

blackrock has cross faction bgs so yeah its clearly possible
might be cool

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Originally Posted by andresio

Nobody cares alrdy, i've seen Alliance stomping Orgrimmar and Horde did not give a **** and same in Alliance .. so the cross faction bg might solve the problem apparently. Does blizzard has cross-faction bgs? if so .. it'd be a nice suggestion to consider.

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Really? Know one cares about the whole Horde vs Alliance thing on a private server? And to answer your question. No, blizzard did not cross have faction BG's during wotlk. When blizzard was faced with this same issue in WoD they introduced something called "Mercenary Mode" which basically lets play as the race you choose of the opposite faction in BG's only. This was to address long queue times in Ashran for Alliance but make no mistake this is not the same as cross faction BG's.

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Originally Posted by Pooppickle

blackrock has cross faction bgs so yeah its clearly possible

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I never said it wasn't possible. I said it shouldn't be done on a realm like Icecrown which Warmane would describe as being Blizzlike. Blackrock has cross faction BG's because that server is 39% Horde and 61% Alliance and is not Blizzlike.

Here's a crazy thought...

If you don't like long queues on Alliance, move to Horde. If you don't have vote points, feel free to make a new character on Horde.

Seems like I found the solution!