Printable View
Pretty sure your way of popping ua and bt is inferior and more complicated than it is supposed to be. You don't get a free bstrike.
During the 3 x ob phase, right after you've used your 3rd obliterate which uses the blood runes (death), you should pop bt and ua and proceed as normal with the 2 x ob pestilence bstrike phase.
It leaves you 0 chance of error.
Minor change in rotation...
Burst:
IT > PS > BT > Pesti > UA > Obli > FS* > ERW > Obli > Obli > Obli > FS > HoW > FS > Obli > Obli > Pesti > BS > FS > wait a bit for killing machine proc > FS
FS* do this Fros Strike ONLY if u have Killing Machine proc up, if u dont have it just dont do it and use ERW.
Normal rotation after burst:
Obli > Obli > X* > Obli > FS > wait 1sec max for killing machine proc > FS > Obli > Obli > Pesti > BS > FS > wait 1sec max for killing machine proc > FS
Repeat.
X* = Howling Blast if u have Rime (Freezing Fog) proc up / OR Horn of Winter if u are low on runic power / OR Frost Strike if u have too much runic power / OR just skip this and do next Obliterate.
I personaly use this part for HB from Freezing Fog / OR i just skip it and use next Obliterate.
Wait 0.5-1.5sec ONLY if u are 100% sure u will have time for 1 extra GCD after u use 2x Frost Strikes. (dont do more than 2 cos u will runic power starve)
If u get instant killing machine proc instantly after 1st FS dont wait that 1 sec. DONT wait more than 1 sec cos than u risc doin late Pestilence and losing diseases. DONT wait that 1 sec if u see ur runes will finish CD sooner.
If u dont have runic power for FS use Horn of Winter (HoW), if u get Rime (Freezing Fog) proc use it instead of next FS.
In case u miss pestilence (or it get resisted and u dont refresh diseases on time):
Obli > Obli > Pesti (miss) > BS > BS > FS > (dont do anything for 1-2sec and wait for frost rune. do Icy Touch ASAP) IT > PS > Obli > Obli > FS > Obli > Obli > Pesti > BS > FS > and so on...
Obli > Obli > Pesti (resist) > BS > FS > (dont do anything for 1-2sec and wait for frost rune, do Icy Touch ASAP) IT > PS > Obli > Obli > FS > Obli > Obli > Pesti > BS > FS > and so on...
How to use UA in combat (Il be using the normal rotation in this section and add UA + BT in it):
(there are 2 ways of using this, id suggest u to practice both of them, cos u never know which one ul need to use in that situation u get in)
1st: Obli > Obli > X* > UA > BT > Obli > FS > wait 1sec max for killing machine proc > FS > Obli > Obli > Pesti > BS > FS > wait 1sec max for killing machine proc > FS
2nd: Obli > Obli > X* > Obli > FS > wait 1sec max for killing machine proc > FS > Obli > Obli > BT > UA > Pesti > FS > wait 1sec max for killing machine proc > FS
From my point of view 1st on is better since it provides u with extra BS in rotation, minor dps increase and 10 runic power.
If u have to start the fight without ERW (this one is questionable):
IT > PS > Obli > Pest > BS > HoW > FS > Obli > Obli > Obli > FS > and so on...
IT > PS > Obli > BT > UA > Pesti > HoW > FS > Obli > Obli > Obli > FS > and so on...
Why questionable? Once u get into it u will know when how and what runes to use for which spell in order to maximise the DPS when swapping targets. I cant tell u what to do exactly since i dont know in which situation u will need to swap and what resources u will have at that state.
Practice on a dummy a lot, watch ur runes, watch ur runic power, watch ur diseases, see how everything interacts with one another and try memorising it. Once it becomes natural for u to push buttons and pew pew u will do wonders in raids. I hope i covered everything with this comment and it helps u guys a bit with ur FDK dps. Best of Luck.
P.S. For new players id suggest not to wait that 1 sec after 1st FS at start. Just get into rotation and see urself that after u cast Obli > Obli > Pesti > BS > FS > FS or Obli > Obli > Obli > FS > FSu will have 0.5 - 1.5 sec gap while waiting for runes for next Obli. After u get into rotation start using the method of "waiting a bit" and maximise ur Killing Machine proc usage which is the only point of it.
Waiting for km to proc and delaying runic dump is the dumbest thing i have heard of. Ur rotation is static and your way of popping bt with ua is complicated and inefficient.
For people reading this, all you have to do is pop bt with ua right after your 3 obliterate phase after using the blood runes (death).
Always dump frost strikes in between obliterates if you have too much of a gap in between rune cooldowns.
Delaying FS by a small amount of time is not dumb at all. You do have this 1s and you do have even more time directly before your 3x Obliterate cycle as death runes will finish late. If you wait too long you will indeed have a lot of trouble keeping your diseases up, tho.
Ok, lets give it another go...
Rune cooldown (RCD) is 10 sec. Global cooldown (GCD) is 1.5sec.
1st part of rotation: Obliterate (1.5sec) > Obliterate (3sec) > Obliterate (4.5sec) > FS (6sec) > FS (7.5sec) > FS (9sec) > 1sec untill the rune is ready.
2nd part of rotation: Obliterate (1.5sec) > Obliterate (3sec) > Pestilence (4.5sec) > BS (6sec) > FS (7.5sec) > FS (9sec) > 1sec untill the rune is ready.
U wont have runic power for 5 Frost Strikes in ur rotation, as said try not to use more than 2 in each runic power dump. That leaves u with 1+1.5sec of free time in 1st and 1sec of free time in 2nd part of rotation. Meaning, u can wait that 2.5sec or 1sec after ur 1st FS before u cast the 2nd FS. If u get Killing Machine proc in that 1-2 extra auto attacks, great, dps increase, if not continue with rotation cos u always want to prio usage of RUNES over runic power.
I dont understand why is a rotation that is static bad. Its how u play a FDK.
U can use Blood Boil, Death and Decay, Chains of Ice, Death Strike, Death Coil, and so on in order to make ur rotation more wild, gl with making that do any kind of good DPS.
In ur rotationIf u use ur UA in combat like this: Obli > Obli > Obli > BT > UA > FS > and so on, u always lose the time that u need to press BT + UA in ur 1st Blood Rune regeneration, 0.2sec or 1sec, u still lose time in doin it.
I never said dont do it like that, i gave 2 options on how to use UA and ur option is 3rd way of doing it, the more stuff new ppl can test and find what suits them best the better... The DPS diference is so low its ******ed u are still not letting this go.
For people reading this, all you have to do is NOT be a buthurt scrub and try out some new ideas that might increase ur dps. If not, just go back to ur old rotation u didnt lose anything, exept maybe 1hour of ur free time testing the new rotations. If it works, great! U are a better player now...
Lets post some numbers because im 100% sure you pull ****ty dps.
Ignoring the fact that this game is pure RNG and that DPS metter is a bad thing to prove ur point, especialy with 90% of ppl on this server DPSwhoring or abusing everything they can in order to make their diks, i mean recount numbers higher, here u go:
http://imgur.com/a/qb4fK
No flasks, no pots, no tryharding, only fisk...
1st: RS 25m normal as FDK
2nd, 3rd, 4th: Dummy, self buffed with HoW only and without any buffs / debuffs on a dummy.
5th: RS 25m HC as Unholy DK
6h: proving that there was no DPS whoring on adds cos i did more Halion dmg than a mage.
Both Ruby Sanctums wer done without any corporality dps increase nor decrease.
Go now and feel free to post ur own.
so you got hysteria or stacked tott's and saying you didnt recieve any buffs, Post a proper recount in icc before you post a bunch of bull ****.
HAHAHAHAHA AND THEN WHAT? :D
U will say something like that again... whats the point? Reason why i dont use Flasks or tryhard with Pots is twofold. Im lazy, and i dont want anything buffing my own dps, if i cant dps without flask, pot, tot, hyst, i shouldnt dps at all.
In RS 25m hc I can reach 15k end dps inside the shadowrealm if the fight lasts a bit longer and i get a full use of Merciless Combat talent.
ToT was used on the tank all the time and we didnt even have Blood DK... xD
Im not the best dk in the world, neather are u, the diference is that i dont live in a bubble of my own selfmade reality and im ready to try something new that other ppl tell me, thats how i got to here. After 1000 talks with 1000 diferent dks, and after every single one i learned something new and improved myself. Instead of wasting time here posting dumb stuff nobody gives a damn, u shouldve used that time in trying out the things i wrote, it might have given u some boost to ur dps, if not u shouldve posted what gives ur dps the boost so new ppl can test that aswell. Thats the whole point of forums, try and help new ppl get into the game, forums and beeing right on forums wont increase ur dick size, it will only prove how small u rly are.
P.S. In order to compare the DPS of the two, they both need to have SAME DBW procs, Weapon enchant procing in the SAME time, EVERY time it procs, they need to push Halion EXACTLY in the same time in shadowrealm, they need to NOT get the debuff and have to stop dpsing and run to the edge, and kill it at EXACT same time and have EXACTLY the same raid composition, and probably something more i forgot about... Chances of that happening are, now when i think about it, same with u trying anything i wrote here and admitin u got something usefull out of it for ur own rotation.
Can you stop typing in broken English? It is quite hard to understand when you write an entire essay.
So you had no tot, no bdk, no corporeality and you still managed a 26k obliterate crit? You can stop the bs ty.
Do u think i care about my broken english?
Lets say i had both TOT, Hysteria, Prepot, pot, flask, corporeality, add anything u want to this list, idc, i have still linked u the 3 recounts where i did DPS alone, self buffed with horn, on a dummy, compare that to ur own and see for urself.
Just for one sec stop beeing buthurt and tryout some things i said, i did try out ur way of doin BT > UA after 3x Obliterates and i told u why i think its not better than the way i posted. Only thing u can lose is 1hour MAX of ur free time to check out everything. U have EXACT spell order in comments, u cant fail if u follow it.
Hey dumb ***, i am talking about the part where you claimed you had no buffs and did a 26k crit with obliterate as you claimed. Obviously you are lying.
first of all FDK players need to have good pc "fps", so i can assume that Gnimo have 60+ fps in game in encounter and to say that he is doing everything good and pulling 95-100% of dk's mechanic. i tried dk's dps on less then 30 fps and dps on dummy in dk's hold was 9.8 burst and 8.8k constant dmg after it, then tried on 60+ fps and then puff burst goes to 10.7k and 9.4k constant dps "btw i was full str dk with 68% arp".
btw, i can bet that he isnt even looking on his runes cd because he must know his rotation in his little finger. one more thing Gnime why are you using sigil of awareness and why 5 on KM and 2 on BCB, when better dmg is 4km and 3 on bcb " i tried both and that's why i ask it"
25k on obliterate can be done with str pron on dbw and full buffed.
my best was in icc25 on queen with bite 130k crit
Hey can you read the previous posts before spewing out more garbage? Thanks.
26k crit on halion with no buffs and corporeality. Lul.
on halion he have buffs, as you can see 10 buffs are kept out of sight by interface options, on dummy he have only HoW, look for buff bar and then talk, and i can say all his done is able to be done by any1 if they try to learn his class to max, and ofc he will do great dmg on halion, he is arp stacking dk and we all know that halion is boss with great armor pool