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June 4, 2020
Blind

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Originally Posted by Sorahere1

i throw a need on a trinket that gives SP & Mana reg on rdf .

Just curious - which trinket are we talking about? Iirc there's not a single straight up sp/mp5 trinket available on rdf. At least in wotlk-content. Like all of em have a clause making em clear healer or dps trinkets.
June 4, 2020
Sorahere1

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Originally Posted by Thorbjorn

We don't judge what's not for your class - it's common knowledge. MP5 and Spirit are healer stats, they're just used on different classes because not all healers benefit from Spirit in WotLK. Spirit 'might' be a DPS stat, depending on the class and its talent build because they might gain damage from it via a glyph or a talent. No such case exists for MP5.
It doesn't matter if you think it makes sense or not, in the end it's up to GMs to decide whether it's ninja looting or not. If you don't like it leave the server. If you do like / wish to tolerate it stay.

I have to repeat? you saying "it's common knowledge" for who? common knowledge is: "I have problems with mana i should do something to fix it, i'm gonna need that trinket!", that's common knowledge, i would say that is more advanced knowledge.

But anyway, have a good day.
June 4, 2020
Akz300

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Originally Posted by Sorahere1

Okay, i can't judge whats good or not for my build ,but you guys can judge what items are for what class.
Hahahaha.. okay, what a vague argument.

Do you expect the new people in WoW know that mana regeneration which is what CASTERS use for CAST spells is not a item for CASTERS,
is better to just ban the people.

Ban is throwing a need in a mana reg item using energy or fury, not this, this has no sense.

Agree 100%. Even if a certain item isn't optimal for a certain role/class, it should never be bannable if you roll for that item. That's completely nonsense.

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Originally Posted by Blind

Bans happen in waves usually. And how come you call these "mistakes"? It takes quite a bit to get someone banned in the first place. False-Positives are rather rare.

How come I call these "mistakes"? I'm pretty sure I didn't ninja, yeah. I may have annoyed someone in some kind of way, and that someone may have fooled the GM's, but I'm pretty sure I didn't ninja.

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Originally Posted by Thorbjorn

It doesn't matter if you think it makes sense or not, in the end it's up to GMs to decide whether it's ninja looting or not. If you don't like it leave the server. If you do like / wish to tolerate it stay.

You're right. It sucks that all my grinding has been for nothing, but I won't be spending more time in vain if, at the end of the day, no one will even bother to show me the evidence on why I got banned.
June 4, 2020
Thorbjorn

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Originally Posted by Sorahere1

"it's common knowledge" for who?

Whole playerbase. It's right there with Arp being a stat for DPS who mostly / strictly use Physical attacks and damage, or do you also think Arp should be used by Assa rogues just because they use daggers to attack with?
June 4, 2020
Blind

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Originally Posted by Akz300

How come I call these "mistakes"? I'm pretty sure I didn't ninja, yeah. I may have annoyed someone in some kind of way, and that someone may have fooled the GM's, but I'm pretty sure I didn't ninja.

Fooling the GMs is ofc always possible - but i'll ask you too: Which item did you need for which class/role in rdf? I can tell you that GMs only really do something in rather obvious cases with pretty clear evidence. They don't just ban someone because he needed an arp-trinket on a retpala or something like that.
June 4, 2020
Sorahere1

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Originally Posted by Thorbjorn

Whole playerbase. It's right there with ARP being a stat for DPS who mostly / strictly use Physical attacks and damage, or do you also think Arp should be used by Assa rogues just because they use daggers to attack with?

You're saying what im trying to say the whole post, DPS that benefits from ARP build it, fury warriors, rogues, hunters etc..
If i notice that i have mana problems with a shadow and i've listen alot of people saying that shadow priest has alot of problems with mana that i have to solve, this is how i react needing a trinket that gives 2 things that work really good for me.
June 4, 2020
Akz300

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Originally Posted by Blind

Fooling the GMs is ofc always possible - but i'll ask you too: Which item did you need for which class/role in rdf? I can tell you that GMs only really do something in rather obvious cases with pretty clear evidence. They don't just ban someone because he needed an arp-trinket on a retpala or something like that.

I'm a protpaladin main, ret paladin secondary. I have absolutely no clue on why I got banned. No one even called me a ninja ingame. I should expect some rants after I ninja'd someone, right? Nope, none of that.
June 4, 2020
Sorahere1

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Originally Posted by Akz300

I'm a protpaladin main, ret paladin secondary. I have absolutely no clue on why I got banned. No one even called me a ninja ingame. I should expect some rants even I ninja'd someone, right? Nope, none of that.

And you won't even know why you got banned, cause they think that's the best way to do it, you dont know why then you dont "drama" other players.
June 4, 2020
Thorbjorn

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Originally Posted by Sorahere1

You're saying what im trying to say the whole post, DPS that benefits from ARP build it, fury warriors, rogues, hunters etc..
If i notice that i have mana problems with a shadow and i've listen alot of people saying that shadow priest has alot of problems with mana that i have to solve, this is how i react needing a trinket that gives 2 things that work really good for me.

Sorry, but you would fall into category of Assa rogue needing Arp because he slightly benefits from it.
Mp5 is still mainly healer stat, just like arp is mainly warr/dk/crogue/hunt/feral stat. Assa rogue wouldn't get Arp gear from a raid if he won it over Feral and neither should you get Mp5 gear over an actual healer.

Nonetheless, spamming forums over bans is against forum rules so I suggest you stop complaining about it and deal with it as I suggested earlier.
June 4, 2020
Blind

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sorahere1

You're saying what im trying to say the whole post, DPS that benefits from ARP build it, fury warriors, rogues, hunters etc..
If i notice that i have mana problems with a shadow and i've listen alot of people saying that shadow priest has alot of problems with mana that i have to solve, this is how i react needing a trinket that gives 2 things that work really good for me.

I still wonder which trinket you exactly won. There's no simple SP/Mp5-Trinket that fits DPS and Heals w/o either part being useless because it requires you to deal damage or cast actual heals.

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Originally Posted by Akz300

I'm a protpaladin main, ret paladin secondary. I have absolutely no clue on why I got banned. No one even called me a ninja ingame. I should expect some rants after I ninja'd someone, right? Nope, none of that.

It's usual, but not required for someone to make an outcry about you rolling an item he could've used. If you don't know which could've caused it there's not much do do but tell you to open a ban appeal and hope for the best - since "discussing" isn't possible at that point.
June 4, 2020
Sorahere1

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Originally Posted by Blind

I still wonder which trinket you exactly won. There's no simple SP/Mp5-Trinket that fits DPS and Heals w/o either part being useless because it requires you to deal damage or cast actual heals.

It's usual, but not required for someone to make an outcry about you rolling an item he could've used. If you don't know which could've caused it there's not much do do but tell you to open a ban appeal and hope for the best - since "discussing" isn't possible at that point.

I can't open the game to know which trinket is, if i'm not wrong the stats was equip: mana reg, equip: casting a damage or healing spell gives you X spell power for X seconds, or something like that.
June 4, 2020
Sorahere1

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Originally Posted by Thorbjorn

Sorry, but you would fall into category of Assa rogue needing Arp because he slightly benefits from it.
Mp5 is still mainly healer stat, just like arp is mainly warr/dk/crogue/hunt/feral stat. Assa rogue wouldn't get Arp gear from a raid if he won it over Feral and neither should you get Mp5 gear over an actual healer.

Nonetheless, spamming forums over bans is against forum rules so I suggest you stop complaining about it and deal with it as I suggested earlier.

I'm not spamming, i'm having a discussion with you specifically to try and understand something.
But as i said before, have a good day which means stop trying to be on top of my comment.
June 4, 2020
Blind

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Originally Posted by Sorahere1

I can't open the game to know which trinket is, if i'm not wrong the stats was equip: mana reg, equip: casting a damage or healing spell gives you X spell power for X seconds, or something like that.

You can still check armory if you have it equipped.
June 4, 2020
Stepkid

MP5 and spirit are MS for healers, being MS>OS. Therefore, your need roll on MP5 is considered as OS which got you banned because you chose need instead of greed. You should greed for OS since MP5 and spirit are not MS for dps. Dps having MS and spirit items makes them look like they did ninja healer items in a raid.
June 4, 2020
Sorahere1

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Originally Posted by Blind

You can still check armory if you have it equipped.

That was some days ago, i dont have the trinket right now it was a blue one

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