I also disagree with this. When I was younger I did a lot of small things that were stupid. But when I was first offered drugs for example, I said no because in my mind I was like, "**** if my parents find out...GG for me" lol. Parents now either don't do it or they take it WAY too far.
IF you take it too far than that's just abuse. I can honestly say that if my parents just sat me down and just lectured me and took the TV or the internet away, I would of done some stupid ****.
The child will hate their parents when they're being punished but they grow up and learn to appreciate it. Only...ONLY if the parent didn't take it too far. I saw you post something awhile back, Helzz. And I can understand, but your parents take it a wee bit too far. =/

