Ally vs Horde

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Originally Posted by alcoholic123

Battlegrounds are the most important aspect of PvP in this game since all Warcaft games are based around large group fights. Arena is for nerds who can't handle the intensity of BGs. I used to think that arena is what matters most (like many plebs here), but thanks to lord Tgodsavage I've become the BG hero that I am today.

All hail lord Tgod Warchief of <FATALITY>

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Lord Tgod....? Seriously you may aswell go to his house, drop your jeans and bend over...>.>

I almost got 20 killing blows in a Battleground without dying once.

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Originally Posted by alcoholic123

Battlegrounds are the most important aspect of PvP in this game since all Warcaft games are based around large group fights. Arena is for nerds who can't handle the intensity of BGs. I used to think that arena is what matters most (like many plebs here), but thanks to lord Tgodsavage I've become the BG hero that I am today.

All hail lord Tgod Warchief of <FATALITY>

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http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-tFBokLP9YM...longe-wtf1.gif

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Originally Posted by Growing

I almost got 20 killing blows in a Battleground without dying once.

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Nice, I got 53 KBs, 8.5 mill damage and 212 honor points without going below 70% HP.
http://1.1m.yt/EdI8hNAxH.png

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Originally Posted by alcoholic123

Nice, I got 53 KBs, 8.5 mill damage and 212 honor points without going below 70% HP.
http://1.1m.yt/EdI8hNAxH.png

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mhmm, HB spam so hard eh?

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Originally Posted by alcoholic123

Arena is for nerds who can't handle the intensity of BGs.

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Forgot to mention, if that's what you believe then it must of been embarrassing when a 5-man premade of Arena players demolished your synced 10-man in AB...of course you never showed a SS of that did you, despite you still doing an incredible amount of damage..but see first reply to that :)

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Originally Posted by alcoholic123

Nice, I got 53 KBs, 8.5 mill damage and 212 honor points without going below 70% HP.
http://1.1m.yt/EdI8hNAxH.png

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You do realise that no one, absolutely no one - in this thread, or any other thread, for the past few months, since the moment I first started trolling tclick for being absolutely full of himself, from the very first post you ever made - find you impressive, like at all. You do realise this, right?

I think he is successfully trolling you guys. It wasn't 100% obvious all the time but in the last few posts of his its clear that he is teasing you.

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Originally Posted by Ntroul

I think he is successfully trolling you guys. It wasn't 100% obvious all the time but in the last few posts of his its clear that he is teasing you.

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No he honestly thinks he's some sort of god, when really I've seen taught DKs with more skill to begin with than Medan.

Well....
I thought it was pretty cool looking

I really don't care what other people say before me, because I didn't come here to read 23 pages of ******ry. And yes, I noticed that in the video we got a bunch of tentacles too, but I'm pretty sure the only reason the Horde did it is because you guys just jumped in and spammed the sh!t out of it, wtf do you expect us to do? And also, the way the proc works is the more things you hit around you, the more the proc chance multiplies.

Also about the video quality, did you try raising it to 1080p? It looks perfectly visible to me on 1080p in full screen.

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Originally Posted by Kemii

No he honestly thinks he's some sort of god, when really I've seen taught DKs with more skill to begin with than Medan.

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Originally Posted by alcoholic123

Nice, I got 53 KBs, 8.5 mill damage and 212 honor points without going below 70% HP.
http://1.1m.yt/EdI8hNAxH.png

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Oh well, lets see what's wrong with the picture shall we?

I see.... i see pugs. Random pugs everywhere. I also see deaths. Lots and lots of deaths of said pugs. I also see a 1-1 score and a 27 minutes duration. Probably those pugs didn't know how to not ress, amirite?

You farmed those kills hard, didn't you? Also, congratulations for being dicks and farming random pugs who don't know any better until the time limit. Most boring thing a PVP guild could do, yet you did it anyway and even brag about it, posting the results here for everyone to see.

Also, how the hell did they even cap that first flag?

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Originally Posted by Beefydk

I really don't care what other people say before me, because I didn't come here to read 23 pages of ******ry. And yes, I noticed that in the video we got a bunch of tentacles too, but I'm pretty sure the only reason the Horde did it is because you guys just jumped in and spammed the sh!t out of it, wtf do you expect us to do? And also, the way the proc works is the more things you hit around you, the more the proc chance multiplies.

Also about the video quality, did you try raising it to 1080p? It looks perfectly visible to me on 1080p in full screen.

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We covered this:

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Originally Posted by Aiovous

Alright, on topic of the accusations against these two retribution paladins: the fact is that alot of things are broken on Warmane. That's just a fact, but weapon and trinket proccing are some of the more evident ones. Items such as http://cata.openwow.com/item=78478, http://cata.openwow.com/item=78000, http://cata.openwow.com/item=78475 are the most popular due to the massive increase in damage that they give due to their broken chance to procc. http://cata.openwow.com/item=78478 however is the most noticable one, considering that it doesn't just deal instant damage to all players within a certain perimeter surrounding the player - it spawns massive tentacles of death and sexual violation.

Now, I don't know what the exact procc chance for http://cata.openwow.com/item=78478 is on Warmane, but I know it's the same regardless of which class uses it - mathematically. The reason why it proccs more by paladins is just because the spells they have are more consistent than any other class. As far as I know http://cata.openwow.com/item=78478 should not procc from spells, it should only procc by melee attacks i.e. the actual hits the player lands on the enemy rather than say DoTs and magic attacks. But it doesn't, on Warmane it proccs from mostly any damage the player deals rather than the singular connecting hits. So, with this in mind - it makes sense that AoE spells have a higher chance of causing http://cata.openwow.com/item=78478 to procc since it has a higher amount of damaging attacks/"procc triggers". This is how it is on Warmane, just as how it is with http://cata.openwow.com/item=78000 and http://cata.openwow.com/item=78475 (and a whole bunch of other items that I won't bother linking here.) It has been this way for a long time, and yes; it should not be this way.

But they should not be banned for this - it is not their fault. Flaunting about killing a multiboxer with 50 tentacles is obvious intention for abuse, but in a 40v40 raid it is not the same. It is not. In a 40v40 clash the obvious choice for a retribution paladin is to use AoE damaging spells to deal as much damage as possible, and said spells are http://cata.openwow.com/spell=25742 (for some reason the open-wow spell won't display the aura effect), http://cata.openwow.com/spell=53385 and http://cata.openwow.com/spell=71122. Regardless of the broken procc chance by http://cata.openwow.com/item=78478 this is still the optimal damage output in this specific scenario for a retribution paladin, so up until this point there is nothing wrong with what they have been doing. Now, the fact that they have http://cata.openwow.com/item=78478 equipped, well, I think that is needless to debate since practically every melee DPS uses it.

So, ultimately - what you're saying is that paladins should be banned for using spells their class is intended to use in a clash-combat situation. Even with a weapon such as http://cata.openwow.com/item=73475 a paladin would use AoE spells to deal the optimal amount of damage. The fact that they use http://cata.openwow.com/item=78478 is because of the overall stat and damage increase it yields regardless of the procc, as is the case with every other melee DPS that uses 2H weapons. To quote and summarize:



Regardless of being aware of this bug or not has nothing to do with the fact that it simply intrudes on the basic rotation of a retribution paladin. So no; they should not be banned, they did nothing wrong. The bug however should be fixed, and you can upvote the report on the bug tracker here: https://www.warmane.com/bugtracker/report/4086

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PS. I've never played a retribution paladin so forgive if some of my statements regarding a paladins rotation (specifically with http://cata.openwow.com/spell=25742 and http://cata.openwow.com/spell=66004 in mind) are inaccurate.

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Unless you wish to object?

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Originally Posted by Aiovous

You do realise that no one, absolutely no one - in this thread, or any other thread, for the past few months, since the moment I first started trolling tclick for being absolutely full of himself, from the very first post you ever made - find you impressive, like at all. You do realise this, right?

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Of course you Alliance scum wouldn't find me impressive since you all are filthy haters. However, 70% of horde players praise me. Whenever I get into a BG, my fellow horde brethren start to spam /hail at me, since I am the reason why Horde wins many BGs today. I've queued into many losing BGs and turned them into victories at the last few moments.

Oh, and speaking of my forum posts, this was my 1st PvP trash talk post :>

Squeak Squeak

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Originally Posted by Ntroul

Also, how the hell did they even cap that first flag?

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Who cares about flag? All i cared about in that BG is farming these newbies so my score would look better and i could brag it about on the forum.