[Guide] Combat Rogue PvE

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Originally Posted by dominitian

do you have any proof that haste is no1 stat right now? recount or something? maybe you should`ve waited a lil`before updating, I doubt haste is working as intented

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There are some new changes coming up today, but until now mastery was still better than haste(not by a significant margin however - note i have alot of both on my gear).

Rupture is doing damage according to:
1 point : (141 + 20 * 1 * 1 + 0.015 * AP * 1 * 0.5 * 8) damage over 8 seconds
2 points: (141 + 20 * 1 * 2 + 0.024 * AP * 1 * 0.5 * 10) damage over 10 seconds
3 points: (141 + 20 * 1 * 3 + 0.03 * AP * 1 * 0.5 * 12) damage over 12 seconds
4 points: (141 + 20 * 1 * 4 + 0.03428571 * AP * 1 * 0.5 * 14) damage over 14 seconds
5 points: (141 + 20 * 1 * 5 + 0.0375 * AP * 1 * 0.5 * 16) damage over 16 seconds

= (241+0.0375*AP) pet tick at 5 combo points.

If there is a problem with its damage, is not related to skill itself.

The problem with rupture is not it's base damage it's the damage after revealing strike. It doesn't get buffed.

So, if rupture its ok, its time to reroll to sub *.*

Tested sub in a few dungeons yesterday, and even with a lower ilvl main hand dagger could manage to pull more dps (21-22k) then with my combat spec (14-16k) with my current 349 ilvl.

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Originally Posted by xEsEx

So, if rupture its ok, its time to reroll to sub *.*

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Everyone already did.

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Originally Posted by xEsEx

So, if rupture its ok, its time to reroll to sub *.*

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Sub rupture was fine even on 4.0.6. Go sub anyway if you want to do some good damage.

i am confused, i need 2% to hit ? even if my yellow attacks are 10%+ miss chance ??

if some1 can help me, what cap i need to have on hit, for pve combat rogue... pls, thx

Ur Character should have TOTAL 8% hit for combat thats it.

Your yellows miss chance is 5% vs same-levels and 8% vs boss-levels. You get 6% hit from Precision and therefore you only need 2% more to reach the 8% boss-level yellow cap.

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Originally Posted by taralej

Your yellows miss chance is 5% vs same-levels and 8% vs boss-levels. You get 6% hit from Precision and therefore you only need 2% more to reach the 8% boss-level yellow cap.

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thx , now i know why 2%, but even if i reforge all hit i have around 9-10% in my status :/

and just 1 more qstino.. how much attack speed i need to have ? i can reforge all in speed, but is this ok ?? what is best to reforge in speed, and what to left untouched ?

As much as you can get. Read Section 2 of my guide. It answers your question exactly.

Sub rogue can easily do 30k+ atm. Which probably makes it one of t he best specs overall

i was using it in BWD and i only did good dps on chimaeron and maloriak, i think now that mobs give a little more gold, i will retalent my pvp build so i can raid with combat/sub

BTW taralej since our 2nd source of damage (in combat) is from auto attacks the stat priority shouldnt be like:

STAT WEIGHT: Agility>Hit(cap)>Expertise(cap)>Haste>moarhit>Mast ery>Crit ?

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Originally Posted by xEsEx

i was using it in BWD and i only did good dps on chimaeron and maloriak, i think now that mobs give a little more gold, i will retalent my pvp build so i can raid with combat/sub

BTW taralej since our 2nd source of damage (in combat) is from auto attacks the stat priority shouldnt be like:

STAT WEIGHT: Agility>Hit(cap)>Expertise(cap)>Haste>moarhit>Mast ery>Crit ?

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That IS indeed the stat priority