Faction balancing on Outland

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Originally Posted by Gokuzg

The only reason there is a buff to Alliance atm is because Horde had too many players and Warmane wants to encourage people to join Ally and balance the factions. Whining about updating the racials to that of WoTLK is kinda pathetic, because you don't like that the other faction has advantage and you want to have it instead (since that's what would happen if you updated ally racials to WoTLK ones) - that's your only reason.

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hahah, well put.

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Originally Posted by Gokuzg

Do you want to know why the racials won't be changed or modified permanently? Because it didn't happen on wotlk servers where due to Every Man for Himself most of the top pvp teams are Alliance with few Horde teams mixed up. Check the ladder - 2v2 and 3v3 have a handful of Horde teams and TBC has opposite (but the top2 are Alliance - so racials don't mean much if you got skills, huh?) Free Medallion allows for 1 more useful trinket if you don't need resi that much hence the dominance on Ally side on WoTLK. It's just easier to go for racials and enjoy their benefits.

The only reason there is a buff to Alliance atm is because Horde had too many players and Warmane wants to encourage people to join Ally and balance the factions. Whining about updating the racials to that of WoTLK is kinda pathetic, because you don't like that the other faction has advantage and you want to have it instead (since that's what would happen if you updated ally racials to WoTLK ones) - that's your only reason. Warmane tries to stay Blizzlike while also modifying things like mage t9 fix simply because the servers don't update to next expansion and we have more time to experience and fix TBC/WoTLK/Cataclysm/MoP.

The only solution that wouldn't be unjust towards either of the faction is reducing the relevance of racials competly like Blizzard did in Legion and adding PvP talents, but that's too much work for Devs and the servers would take a turn towards a custom modified TBC instead of as close to Blizzlike as possible.

You can rage all you want, but you will soon realize that it's not going to change a single thing, just like the people on WoTLK servers did. By getting so worked up over the issue you are only harming yourself.

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The very fact Wotk faction ratio is 50-50 without any custom changes needed ****s on your wall of text.

You can not compare racial disbalance in WOTLk and TBC, it's incomparable, dat 73-27 standart TBC ratio was a clear proof.

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Originally Posted by Hansenn

The very fact Wotk faction ratio is 50-50 without any custom changes needed ****s on your wall of text.

You can not compare racial disbalance in WOTLk and TBC, it's incomparable, dat 73-27 standart TBC ratio was a clear proof.

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That does not change the fact, that custom racials would be stupid. This is a TBC realm, not a custom racial server.

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Originally Posted by Bygli

That does not change the fact, that custom racials would be stupid. This is a TBC realm, not a custom racial server.

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- Hey, guys, TBC is an unbalanced dog**** PVP wise due to racials.
- We can fix it with custom changes.
- No, let it be unbalanced dog****.
- Why so ?
- <insert here any absurd reason>

In the deep future you may realize that 2017 TBC Pserver can not be blizzlike by any means due to various reasons.
Untill now... whatever.

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Originally Posted by Hansenn

- Hey, guys, TBC is an unbalanced dog**** PVP wise due to racials.
- We can fix it with custom changes.
- No, let it be unbalanced dog****.
- Why so ?
- <insert here any absurd reason>

In the deep future you may realize that 2017 TBC Pserver can not be blizzlike by any means due to various reasons.
Untill now... whatever.

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They can and they should be blizzlike. Custom servers are a whole different breed of dog****. You are welcome to find one, if TBC is not to your liking.

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Originally Posted by Bygli

They can and they should be blizzlike.

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Outland realm is already heavily customized, blizzlike boy.

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Originally Posted by Hansenn

Outland realm is already heavily customized, blizzlike boy.

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Not in the way you think. Why dont you go to a custom realm? Why should this entire server bend to your liking?

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Originally Posted by Bygli

They can and they should be blizzlike.

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But then considering the server had 80-20 faction ratio, would you still keep it... "blizzlike"? Because everything should be "blizzlike"?

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Originally Posted by Bygli

Why dont you go to a custom realm?

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Hey, guess what, Outland server is already a costum realm. Isn't that sweet? Oh, you didn't know? Ow, sorry!

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Originally Posted by Drkwispurr

But then considering the server had 80-20 faction ratio, would you still keep it... "blizzlike"? Because everything should be "blizzlike"?



Hey, guess what, Outland server is already a costum realm. Isn't that sweet? Oh, you didn't know? Ow, sorry!

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Not in the way you want it to be.

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Originally Posted by Drkwispurr

Hey, guess what, Outland server is already a costum realm. Isn't that sweet? Oh, you didn't know? Ow, sorry!

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Any private server is "a custom" one, by essence of them being an emulation of the original thing - and the fact they don't have a monthly fee. The matter is just how far into custom one will go, and one custom thing isn't necessarily a reason or opening for another.

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Originally Posted by Bygli

Not in the way you want it to be.

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What do you mean the "way I want it to be"? Did I say on any post that I want the server to be a certain way?
I don't play in TBC anymore, and I really couldn't care less about how customized it is or it is going to be. My goal was to alert you that private servers can't be blizzlike. The feature they implemented to erase this recent 80-20 unbalance is something already. Be ready for any change they might add, because, you know, we can't predict the various issues servers can have at any moment.

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Originally Posted by Hansenn

The very fact Wotk faction ratio is 50-50 without any custom changes needed ****s on your wall of text.

You can not compare racial disbalance in WOTLk and TBC, it's incomparable, dat 73-27 standart TBC ratio was a clear proof.

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First of all comparing several years worth of changes versus a server that hasn't been up for even a year is worthless. Because it doesn't take into consideration a lot of factors like the fact that Icecrown is focused more on the PvE aspect of the game than PvP.

Second of all, if you want to compare WoTLK server balance and TBC server balance while using the PvP aspect of the game as the reason behind any imbalance, compare Blackrock's balance with your starting Outland balance since it's a server focused on PvP. As you can see, the Alliance has twice the amount of people online simply because the human racial is OP in PvP and that renders your whole argument invalid, because no changes to the racials have been made in WoTLK server focused on PvP so you can safely assume that there will be no permanent changes to TBC racials as well.

Bravo. The haters dont realize that all your doing is ensuring they have folks to compete with. Its a good decision.

Worry about the number of Resto Druids, not racials. Just a small tip.

Does the bonuses still exist for TBC OUtland realm if someoen transfers from horde to alliance? and how to activate it? is there any option to or is it automaticly?

THanks for your answers game team or anyone.