June 1st XP changes

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Originally Posted by tronchon

you don't seem to understand that the majority of the people, do not want a low xp rate server.

if they would there'd be one, but there is none.

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It does not require any sort of majority to want such a realm. It only requires enough to make it relevant. Obviously there is enough interest, else we wouldn't have Lordaeron in a test state at the moment. Also, whether or not there is such a realm is strictly up to the staff. The factors that are taken into regard when opening or closing any realm, be it 1x or otherwise, is solely at the discretion of the staff. This whole argument is moot.

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Originally Posted by tronchon

bliz is not "someone" its a company, the reason why companies put products on the market is because the want to make money

if they didn't want to make money wow would be free to play and blizz would be a non profit organization

don't be stupid and think before typing

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From what I can understand of your posts, you don't seem to understand the design concept behind the game in its original iteration, or that anything other than "1x", as people have to call it in the wow-private-server world, is a simple by-product of the original "fun servers" and servers that increased exp gain due to the lack of leveling content on original game emulators. To say that "1x" should not exist or that people should not or do not enjoy it is naive at best.

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Originally Posted by Skuddy

the problem is 1x rates are boring as ****. if you want 1x then fine, go play retail. the rest of us are quite content with higher rates. even back when lordwas up and running it was always the lowest populated server, that alone shows the majority of players prefer higher rates.

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There were many more factors involved in it than that. I'm also sure that some of our older members can recall the popularity of our first low-rate realm, Frostwolf, in its original iteration during the WotLK private-server era. Also, as I said above, this is a judgment call to be made by the staff and by the staff only. You are welcome to your opinion, but please, do not try to force that opinion on others and insist that others are not welcome to their own opinion.

All I know is that if there wasn't a x1, I would've never started playing WoW.
Sure, I don't know if I'd be leveling many chars on x1, but it sure does add to the gaming experience.

As sapphire said talk to the old players who have been here for a few years post cata when this was wotlk, x1 was thriving we had an awesome community also on x1 gives new players time to learn their classes and chars, maybe the lack of x1 is why so many here on warmane are average players at best because x7 x10 or x20 doesnt give you time to learn all about your chars class and skills you get to max level so fast then look a lemon at end game because you dont know what you doing . Also as evangelion said its what brought me to play wow the idea of a x1 server and i enjoyed everything, the journey to 80 was one i never forget, cant say that when you get there in 1-2 days ;)

Higher rates bring convenience and ability to make up for broken quests and content when leveling. Each increase in a 'rate' is an very significant increase the the pace the game is designed to have. Rates x7 means 700%. We are not yet implementing x1 experience rates for all realms because realms are not ready for it yet, especially MoP. However profession leveling rate, reputation rate will be set to 100%. Gold rate will be x3 to slow down inflation while still providing enough gold to keep up with x7 experience rates.

Summary, experience rates will remain x7 on all realms for the time being. Profession and reputation rates will be lowered to standard. It will be Lordaeron that will give us all a good picture on how community will enjoy clean and true rates, any change in rates to other realms will depend on development in upcoming months and impressions from Lordaeron leveling (whether it will deliver the experience we want to see and be relatively bug-free enough to at x1 rates).

Hopefully we can make a live Q&A stream sometime next week to answer and engage in discussion over x1 topic and how to deliver it.

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Originally Posted by Kaer Wolf

Higher rates bring convenience and ability to make up for broken quests and content when leveling. Each increase in a 'rate' is an very significant increase the the pace the game is designed to have. Rates x7 means 700%. We are not yet implementing x1 experience rates for all realms because realms are not ready for it yet, especially MoP. However profession leveling rate, reputation rate will be set to 100%. Gold rate will be x3 to slow down inflation while still providing enough gold to keep up with x7 experience rates.

Summary, experience rates will remain x7 on all realms for the time being. Profession and reputation rates will be lowered to standard. It will be Lordaeron that will give us all a good picture on how community will enjoy clean and true rates, any change in rates to other realms will depend on development in upcoming months and impressions from Lordaeron leveling (whether it will deliver the experience we want to see and be relatively bug-free enough to at x1 rates).

Hopefully we can make a live Q&A stream sometime next week to answer and engage in discussion over x1 topic and how to deliver it.

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Do you plan to make Lordaeron official x1 realm anytime soon?

My only concern at this point is marketplace.

Hopefully you guys decide to either not have one for lord at all,or to sell only mounts and other junk. Offic no smourne.

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Originally Posted by Kaer Wolf

Higher rates bring convenience and ability to make up for broken quests and content when leveling. Each increase in a 'rate' is an very significant increase the the pace the game is designed to have. Rates x7 means 700%. We are not yet implementing x1 experience rates for all realms because realms are not ready for it yet, especially MoP. However profession leveling rate, reputation rate will be set to 100%. Gold rate will be x3 to slow down inflation while still providing enough gold to keep up with x7 experience rates.

Summary, experience rates will remain x7 on all realms for the time being. Profession and reputation rates will be lowered to standard. It will be Lordaeron that will give us all a good picture on how community will enjoy clean and true rates, any change in rates to other realms will depend on development in upcoming months and impressions from Lordaeron leveling (whether it will deliver the experience we want to see and be relatively bug-free enough to at x1 rates).

Hopefully we can make a live Q&A stream sometime next week to answer and engage in discussion over x1 topic and how to deliver it.

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Thankfully Kaer is leading this community and not some of the people who posted in this thread, who are completely spoiled by fun server rates and focused solely on rushing to the end game content.

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Originally Posted by Kaer Wolf

Higher rates bring convenience and ability to make up for broken quests and content when leveling. Each increase in a 'rate' is an very significant increase the the pace the game is designed to have. Rates x7 means 700%. We are not yet implementing x1 experience rates for all realms because realms are not ready for it yet, especially MoP. However profession leveling rate, reputation rate will be set to 100%. Gold rate will be x3 to slow down inflation while still providing enough gold to keep up with x7 experience rates.

Summary, experience rates will remain x7 on all realms for the time being. Profession and reputation rates will be lowered to standard. It will be Lordaeron that will give us all a good picture on how community will enjoy clean and true rates, any change in rates to other realms will depend on development in upcoming months and impressions from Lordaeron leveling (whether it will deliver the experience we want to see and be relatively bug-free enough to at x1 rates).

Hopefully we can make a live Q&A stream sometime next week to answer and engage in discussion over x1 topic and how to deliver it.

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IF lord does launch, why mess with the rates on the other servers? i don't see how making things take longer is going to enhance the experience for those of us that joined here specifically for the higher rates. i know you'll wind up doing what the staff feel is best, i'm just curious as to you're reasoning behind changing the current realms.

So launch Lordaeron and the people who want 1x can go to there. Do not mess with the other servers for god sake, its a stupid idea, since who joined those servers years ago did so because they were x20, x15, x10, etc
x7 is low as it is for us who joined for these reasons, you should not be messing with already stablished servers, and as pointed in the original Lordaeron topic it was fastly dismissed because the community does not want it, and now you still want to force it upon us?

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Originally Posted by Skuddy

IF lord does launch, why mess with the rates on the other servers? i don't see how making things take longer is going to enhance the experience for those of us that joined here specifically for the higher rates. i know you'll wind up doing what the staff feel is best, i'm just curious as to you're reasoning behind changing the current realms.

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There is no "IF". It will, that much is certain. The question is a matter of when. That's the point a lot of people posting in this thread doesn't seem to have understood yet. So please let it be known, we are going forward with Lordaeron. As for other server's rates, as Kaer has said, and as I have said, anything that isn't "1x" is simply a by-product of unscripted content and "fun servers". Our ultimate goal has always been, and always will be, to aim for the best "blizz-like" experience as possible. These changes in the future would bring us closer to that goal. The high rates that the realms currently offer are for convenience and make up for broken quests and other content, as previously mentioned.

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Originally Posted by Harai

So launch Lordaeron and the people who want 1x can go to there. Do not mess with the other servers for god sake, its a stupid idea, since who joined those servers years ago did so because they were x20, x15, x10, etc
x7 is low as it is for us who joined for these reasons, you should not be messing with already stablished servers, and as pointed in the original Lordaeron topic it was fastly dismissed because the community does not want it, and now you still want to force it upon us?

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They joined the realms they did for convenience, which is fine. But it is no more of a stupid decision than anyone's opinion of it. An opinion is that, an opinion. As such, it cannot accurately reflect the majority, because opinions are all as unique as individuals themselves. This isn't even to say that the thread you mention was open for only 6 hours, which means the majority of the feedback actually visible in that thread is from our vocal forum community. Which is great, but that isn't what we wanted out of that thread. We wanted the feedback of the community as a whole, not just from a fraction of it. We know what people want though, and we won't ignore it. We will definitely take it into consideration moving forward, but it should be known that no single person decides what is best for the server or which direction it should take.

Please don't take this the wrong way, though. We're grateful for your opinions and feedback. We just want you to understand our reasons and approach to the issues we've been discussing here.

Well if it does open what about all us old lord players who had to put our accounts on these stupid high rate servers and have no chance of taking ti back??? We did not have the option of x1 or we would be there now. I for one will see what happens when lord does actually get launched and see what restrictions are put in place but from the info already posted its not looking good for us old players who love the x1 experience .

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Originally Posted by Sapphire

There is no "IF". It will, that much is certain. The question is a matter of when. That's the point a lot of people posting in this thread doesn't seem to have understood yet. So please let it be known, we are going forward with Lordaeron. As for other server's rates, as Kaer has said, and as I have said, anything that isn't "1x" is simply a by-product of unscripted content and "fun servers". Our ultimate goal has always been, and always will be, to aim for the best "blizz-like" experience as possible. These changes in the future would bring us closer to that goal. The high rates that the realms currently offer are for convenience and make up for broken quests and other content, as previously mentioned.

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while that's not what i was hoping to hear, i appreciate the answer. i'll be starting working on my other toons proff's soon while they're still 5x.

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Originally Posted by Sapphire

Please don't take this the wrong way, though. We're grateful for your opinions and feedback. We just want you to understand our reasons and approach to the issues we've been discussing here.

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Well you just dont look like that
From my understanding the rates always were the way they were, with NEW servers opening in NEW rates. Not even a problem with that. But then sometime last year you decided that the servers should have its rates reduced, for no reason since everybody was happy before, the rates never were a problem nor a source of complainment

With the moltdown not all servers could return, nothing's wrong with that, we understood, specially cataclysm which before had 3 realms now we just have 1 normal realm, so yes we understand that x7 is a way to attract everybody who was playing cata before. But you fail to remember the players who were playing on sargeras and neltharion, which rates were x20 and x10 and will not be satisfied with unilateral changing of rates for no viable reason, except the problems which only the staff sees and the players do not

And this seems even more unreasoning for the other server, with each expansion having 2 realms, with a new low realm to be launched in the near future, but you just say you want a bunch of low rate realms to solve "a problem" that nobody sees, so you say you have no space for those who appreciate higher rates, indirectly saying "you should go play somewhere else"

Please enlighten me which are these issues you're talking about, because daily in the server we see other issues, and those are not the leveling speed

We, who like higher rates, we're just feeling excluded, less valuable and like we're being forced to abandon our chars again, but this time because a unilateral decision of the staff to change ALL the realms, when just launching new low rates servers you suffice just fine for those who like lower rates, wouldn it

Like Harai's Statement.

I and a few Friends started here a few years ago on Cataclysm and after a while we start playing wotlk (best expansion after bc) on ragnaros.

The rates on Neltharion also Ragnaros was the Reason why we start on Molten (the big community so we find players to play with, and the rates to level aup as fast as possible), we got sick of the Leveling all over again on Retail. Enough is Enough.

When we wanna play on a pserver like Warmane, then with the high rates we choosed to play with, well its now x7 but its almost fast and nice to play.
also the drop of gold dont take ages like on retail. same with professions, only half of needed mats are good to have professions up to make the gear and spec
more useful in raids.

i dont wanna say i stop to play here, and i also wont say i never ever donate but when it comes to the x1 thingy with everything, then im just loggin in to raid, but never ever level another toon and spend my money to the new ones, only old ones tho.

another thingy is, you say "blizzlike experiance" well then remove the Marketplace and unneccessary features wich blizzard is not offering.

that means: no profession upgrades for coins, no tradings, no gears, no legandary weapons etc. just only things like mounts and pets or transmog gear.

i bet you will find reasons against those things. but then dont call everything "blizzlike experience" cuz 2t9 on mage was blizzlike even if they didnt fix it as it was a bug, they kept it and live with it...

just my opinions but i think there are a lot who think the same.

Anytime they lower the rates, the same thing happens...a lot of people leave. Reputation rate especially should never be set to 1x since most factions don't have enough quests to get exalted even on 7x, and a lot of factions don't have tabards. And lowering gold rate is going to do nothing but bring more gold beggers...and we already have a TON of those. Guess it will finally be my time to go somewhere else if I can't even get rep or farm gold anymore. Not everybody can sit on WoW every minute of every day in order to accomplish what they need to do.