Proclaimed Release of WOTLK in mid of December

i'd even vote for releasing it earlier than intended, since this whole experience is a pointless time waste, especially from a pvper's point of view. i cannot imagine anyone else, beside those pve heroes and dragonkillers who are willing to prolong this for even a single day... not only pvp is unbalanced, unrewarding, linear, broken and limited, but arenas are also disabled. moreover, you can't even buy a season 4 (brutal) gear anyhow and especially not with such poor, broken honor rates as they're now. anyway, there's not much point in prolonging this farce, even by a minute. you can kill your precious scripts, dragons, demons and everything without a brain on wotlk too. we pvper's cannot even enjoy arenas or even a balanced and rewarding game play.

so, instead of thinking solely on youselves, at least TRY to think about others too. being an egoistical piece of sh.it isn't gonna do you much good in either a game or real life, case you have one. we all came to lordaeron to play wotlk and not vanilla or tbc. there are other servers for that, you can easily google it, i assure you, you'll find some that are populated.

No, no, no...
Just dont...

Please, stop using word "dealy" and "WotLK" in same sentence.
5th Dec is fine date.

Let us already level to 80 and start collecting useful items and reputations.
Not to mention about healthy PvP..

You don't have all instances scripted - fine. Close doors and re-open it after you script it. As far as I remember Nexus, Utgare(s) and Azjol/Ahn always worked fine on Molten (DKP is other thing tho...)
You don't have all bosses scripted in Naxx? - ok i buy it! I am sure that I'm not the only one who remembers days when Marrowgar was only boss in ICC...

I see no reasons for extending TBC.
you say Sunwell raid? do it at lvl 80... doing any raid now and calling it TBC-like is just stupid - like 3k+ dps in raid - very very TBC-like...

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Originally Posted by MaxBlack1

No, no, no...
Just dont...

Please, stop using word "dealy" and "WotLK" in same sentence.
5th Dec is fine date.

Let us already level to 80 and start collecting useful items and reputations.
Not to mention about healthy PvP..

You don't have all instances scripted - fine. Close doors and re-open it after you script it. As far as I remember Nexus, Utgare(s) and Azjol/Ahn always worked fine on Molten (DKP is other thing tho...)
You don't have all bosses scripted in Naxx? - ok i buy it! I am sure that I'm not the only one who remembers days when Marrowgar was only boss in ICC...

I see no reasons for extending TBC.
you say Sunwell raid? do it at lvl 80... doing any raid now and calling it TBC-like is just stupid - like 3k+ dps in raid - very very TBC-like...

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No thank you i really don't want to play WotLK in such a state i rather wait another 2 or 3 months or even more then play that.

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Originally Posted by Fubuki

No thank you i really don't want to play WotLK in such a state i rather wait another 2 or 3 months or even more then play that.

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quit wow and come back in 2-3 months , in that time we will enjoy wotlk pew pew

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Originally Posted by StrongerThanYou

quit wow and come back in 2-3 months , in that time we will enjoy wotlk pew pew

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You will be the first person moaning as soon as wotlk comes out and half the bugs are still around + more that are introduced in wotlk. They should have all the time they need to make wotlk a perfect experience, I don't see how they can do that releasing it so close to Christmas. Also if all your bothered about is pvp, please go play blackrock, why would you even bother with lordaeron?

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Originally Posted by Fubuki

No thank you i really don't want to play WotLK in such a state i rather wait another 2 or 3 months or even more then play that.

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The vast majority don't give a **** about a few bugs.

We want out of the hellhole that is this faux TBC. Bugged item drops ruined the economy, not a single AV at 70. Its obviously a total flop compared to 60 and 80 content.

PvE heroes in here saying it will lower the popularity of the server to release wotlk... Get a grip you self serving cheating man children.

Wotlk will only be good for Lordaeron. Saying otherwise is pushing your pathetic selfish agenda.

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Originally Posted by Fubuki

No thank you i really don't want to play WotLK in such a state i rather wait another 2 or 3 months or even more then play that.

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truly don't see what "WotLK in such a state" means.
is not having access to Naxx from the beginning of WotLK so gamebreaking? or no access to DKP / Oculus - only pre-Ulduar instances Molten had always problems?

I wish to remind you that rest of dungeons/raid will be unavailable either way due to realm progress concept.

also Warmane staff already said - like 3 months ago - that Loremaster is obtainable on new core so most quests are working as intended right here right now...

in my personal opinion current TBC gameplay state of less fun than that...

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Originally Posted by Luminnar

i'd even vote for releasing it earlier than intended, since this whole experience is a pointless time waste, especially from a pvper's point of view. i cannot imagine anyone else, beside those pve heroes and dragonkillers who are willing to prolong this for even a single day... not only pvp is unbalanced, unrewarding, linear, broken and limited, but arenas are also disabled. moreover, you can't even buy a season 4 (brutal) gear anyhow and especially not with such poor, broken honor rates as they're now. anyway, there's not much point in prolonging this farce, even by a minute. you can kill your precious scripts, dragons, demons and everything without a brain on wotlk too. we pvper's cannot even enjoy arenas or even a balanced and rewarding game play.

so, instead of thinking solely on youselves, at least TRY to think about others too. being an egoistical piece of sh.it isn't gonna do you much good in either a game or real life, case you have one. we all came to lordaeron to play wotlk and not vanilla or tbc. there are other servers for that, you can easily google it, i assure you, you'll find some that are populated.

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All I read here was me me me. BTW arenas are open and are broken as ****. Totems go through bridge, charge go through bridge. This what u want when wotlk comes? I don't.

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Originally Posted by MaxBlack1

No, no, no...
Just dont...

Please, stop using word "dealy" and "WotLK" in same sentence.
5th Dec is fine date.

Let us already level to 80 and start collecting useful items and reputations.
Not to mention about healthy PvP..

You don't have all instances scripted - fine. Close doors and re-open it after you script it. As far as I remember Nexus, Utgare(s) and Azjol/Ahn always worked fine on Molten (DKP is other thing tho...)
You don't have all bosses scripted in Naxx? - ok i buy it! I am sure that I'm not the only one who remembers days when Marrowgar was only boss in ICC...

I see no reasons for extending TBC.
you say Sunwell raid? do it at lvl 80... doing any raid now and calling it TBC-like is just stupid - like 3k+ dps in raid - very very TBC-like...

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Yeah because people will play a half broken server if that's your logic. The population will surely drop if people enter the first raid and find they can't even clear the instance. Silly logic you have sir. They can scrap their world's most complete wotlk if they have broken raids.

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Originally Posted by Lolmaru

All I read here was me me me. BTW arenas are open and are broken as ****. Totems go through bridge, charge go through bridge. This what u want when wotlk comes? I don't.

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then buy glasses, learn to read or rent a brain. dunno what else to tell you as you clearly see what you want to see. also, why is a pve hero even bothering to talk back to me??? i didn't play arena yet and i doubt i will bother with it, even if it was working ok, but it doesn't make sense that arenas are working fully on other realms and are bugged here. also, arena season shouldn't start immediately when "wotlk" opens, but at a later date as it was on retail too, so again i see no problems with it.

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Originally Posted by Lolmaru

You will be the first person moaning as soon as wotlk comes out and half the bugs are still around + more that are introduced in wotlk. They should have all the time they need to make wotlk a perfect experience, I don't see how they can do that releasing it so close to Christmas. Also if all your bothered about is pvp, please go play blackrock, why would you even bother with lordaeron?

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this wasn't pointed towards me, but i'll reply anyway. can you world pvp on blackrock like you can on lordaeron? (yes, i know about the isle of quel danas, but that's not what i meant) nope. can you have any gear advantages on blackrock like you can on lordaeron, since we're obviously talking about arenas with rating requirements and differences between pve and pvp gears? nope. can you play on season 5 (deadly) on blackrock, like you could on lordaeron when arenas open? again nope. i could continue this for a long time, but since i mentioned gear differences, you can't even obtain season 3 or 4 gear. even if the vendors are there, you still have to farm for like 300 hours to get a full gear, unless you're playing a paladin in a premade with another 4 paladins.

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Originally Posted by MaxBlack1

truly don't see what "WotLK in such a state" means.
is not having access to Naxx from the beginning of WotLK so gamebreaking? or no access to DKP / Oculus - only pre-Ulduar instances Molten had always problems?

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Ofc it is if you really can't see why then i don't know what to say did you even play on retail bevore?
I don't play here just cause it's free i don't care about that i would gladly pay a sub for a perfect WoTLK server and i don't have a problem donating here.
There are a **** ton of other free games or more or less bugged private servers out there if that is all you guys want.
I play here cause i really like how WoW was during WotLK and want to relive that experience as perfect as possible and this server seems to be the only one that really tries to realize that.

TBC was a complete failure, 3 weeks working on sunwell just to pospone the release of wotlk into christmas holidays when most won't be playing, they should just open all raids as it is and release 5th of december, DO you not realize that by focusing on BT/sunwell means less people working on naxx/vaults/obisd and 5 mans of wotlk?

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Originally Posted by Cardigan1

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Thank you. He needed this unfortunately.

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Originally Posted by Fubuki

Ofc it is if you really can't see why then i don't know what to say did you even play on retail bevore?
I don't play here just cause it's free i don't care about that i would gladly pay a sub for a perfect WoTLK server and i don't have a problem donating here.
There are a **** ton of other free games or more or less bugged private servers out there if that is all you guys want.
I play here cause i really like how WoW was during WotLK and want to relive that experience as perfect as possible and this server seems to be the only one that really tries to realize that.

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Lots of other wotlk servers that are working as intended with all the content out there right now, you can go play them. Most of us joined this server as we envisioned what was promised us; a progressive realm where we could enjoy each of the content in stages, right now the tbc content is a joke. And yes for all the pvp nerds honesty, go play some arenas see how bugged they are and pvp in general. To say it makes no sense that it's bugged here and not on their other servers is Ludicrous as they're running different cores.

Will be DK realesed with the Wotlk?