[Retribution Paladin] Censure POWA!

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Originally Posted by Astrobazooka

Yes its me and Im still playing under name Goobypls !

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Nice :D Its really rare to find a good Boomie in arenas nowadays :)

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Originally Posted by BakuraLord

Nice :D Its really rare to find a good Boomie in arenas nowadays :)

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Thanks ! Swapnfap is rarely playing now, so Im forced to sit in the Stormwind instead of queuing 3s. I wish you all the best !

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Originally Posted by Astrobazooka

Thanks ! Swapnfap is rarely playing now, so Im forced to sit in the Stormwind instead of queuing 3s. I wish you all the best !

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Yesterday I saw Showmustgoon, I don't know if its him :o
Same for u buddy, wish u all the best o/

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Originally Posted by BakuraLord

Yesterday I saw Showmustgoon, I don't know if its him :o
Same for u buddy, wish u all the best o/

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Yes it's him. The one true Show ;)

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Originally Posted by Astrobazooka

Yes it's him. The one true Show ;)

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Its always nice to find old frostwolf players :D

Just want to say, I agree that Censure is broken asf, but if they fix censure then I highly expect them to fix Two Hand Weapon Specialization. Its been tested and reported and even confirmed by an ex Q&A member that Templar's Verdict doesn't scale with it. Se even when them fixes roll out, there will be no difference with Ret damage.
(Also Bakura, I know the first post was aimed at me, cute you don't even know my toon and you ride my D so hard, you're adorable mate ;) )

Also love how you don't show that it was a player you bursted on....in the background you see SW which is closer to the dummies than the duel are...also even if it was on a Rdudu....what was his resil compared to the resil you fought against your Ret. Like I said, Censure is broke asf....can't wait for when ferals admit they are carried by a bug in their numbers :^)

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Originally Posted by Gutray

Just want to say, I agree that Censure is broken asf, but if they fix censure then I highly expect them to fix Two Hand Weapon Specialization. Its been tested and reported and even confirmed by an ex Q&A member that Templar's Verdict doesn't scale with it. Se even when them fixes roll out, there will be no difference with Ret damage.
(Also Bakura, I know the first post was aimed at me, cute you don't even know my toon and you ride my D so hard, you're adorable mate ;) )

Also love how you don't show that it was a player you bursted on....in the background you see SW which is closer to the dummies than the duel are...also even if it was on a Rdudu....what was his resil compared to the resil you fought against your Ret. Like I said, Censure is broke asf....can't wait for when ferals admit they are carried by a bug in their numbers :^)

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in other words, this game is hard for everyone. wow

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Originally Posted by Gutray

if they fix censure then I highly expect them to fix Two Hand Weapon Specialization. Its been tested and reported and even confirmed by an ex Q&A member that Templar's Verdict doesn't scale with it. Se even when them fixes roll out, there will be no difference with Ret damage.

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Dude, I would love to have those 2 things fixed then. I prefer to take more dmg per TV than censure bugged dmg... At least I would be able to cyclone the retris and don't get 50% of my HP off for the censure ticks (and I'm not even kiding, I once tested it with Berzer and I was like 70%-80% HP when I cloned him, at the end of the clone my HP was at 50%). Plus, I don't know if you noticed, but censure does not take repetence down, so u can repetence and let the censure kill your enemy (this have already been tested aswell for me and my friend Holyrandiance). TV would be much easier to avoid.

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Originally Posted by Gutray

(Also Bakura, I know the first post was aimed at me, cute you don't even know my toon and you ride my D so hard, you're adorable mate ;) )

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I don't even know your toon because for some reason you don't want to share that information with us :D And I'm not even riding on your D, I just love to see retris like you talking about how other classes are OP.

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Originally Posted by Gutray

Also love how you don't show that it was a player you bursted on....in the background you see SW which is closer to the dummies than the duel are...

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On the Feral I forgot to take SS, so I had to relog and get it. But still, no big deal:

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http://i.imgur.com/Ayz3UP1.jpg

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Originally Posted by Gutray

also even if it was on a Rdudu....what was his resil compared to the resil you fought against your Ret.

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The Rdruid wasas using this gear in both bursts: http://armory.warmane.com/character/...harion/summary
But Idk mate, why don't you ask him/her?

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http://i.imgur.com/L7Wdhzd.png

Feral's gear: http://armory.warmane.com/character/...harion/summary
Retri's gear: http://armory.warmane.com/character/...harion/summary

You're trying to act like if you didn't know that was the real difference between Censure's dmg and Rip's Dmg. Or maybe you didn't really know. In the other thread where we talked I said that Rip would make 11k Crit per tick agaisnt people with good resil and I was damn right because I know my class, do u know yours?

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Originally Posted by Gutray

can't wait for when ferals admit they are carried by a bug in their numbers :^)

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Ferals are carried by a bug in the numbers? Did u at least read everything I said in this thread? You're censure is doing more dmg than my main dmg ability, Rip. Feral dmg is so OP right? Our main dmg abilities are Rip and Shred, I already talked about Rip and Shred does like 20k, but we need to be behind the target, put bleeds first and it uses 40 energy per Shred. TV would do like what? 40k-50k Crit? So yes, Retris beat Feral in terms of numbers, in dmg and heals so I don't really know what are you talking about...

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Originally Posted by Gutray

Just want to say, I agree that Censure is broken asf, but if they fix censure then I highly expect them to fix Two Hand Weapon Specialization. Its been tested and reported and even confirmed by an ex Q&A member that Templar's Verdict doesn't scale with it. Se even when them fixes roll out, there will be no difference with Ret damage. ...

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I love seeing people type/say this type of stuff like the difference in damage would be 0 if this or that were to be working as intended. As Bakura already said and I will say as well. I and possibly anyone playing against a Retribution Paladin would rather your class be fixed and not have to worry about being nuked by a overscaling DoT at RANGE while you are inside of a cc such as cyclone or whatnot. So lets say they fix paladins... tell me how are you gonna pull that same damage from within a cyclone if your DoT is no longer overscaling and now you must be within range to utilize your Templar's Verdict? If you mean to tell me that within a CC you can still shave off about 20%+ of a players HP without an overscaling DoT and with a "fixed" TV instead and can prove this; then you would be the first. Also possibly the most skillful retribution paladin and possibly Houdini. It feels like retribution paladins are some what ranged dps as well as melee dps as long as this bug exists.

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Originally Posted by Gutray

...also even if it was on a Rdudu....what was his resil compared to the resil you fought against your Ret. Like I said, Censure is broke asf....can't wait for when ferals admit they are carried by a bug in their numbers :^)

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Hallu! I am really resto druid, with 4800 resilience (or close to that number)...is that enough to your doubts? :}

http://i.imgur.com/IABMEDu.jpg

1 minute 2s game, 4141 resil bm hunt #legit

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Originally Posted by danzol

http://i.imgur.com/IABMEDu.jpg

1 minute 2s game, 4141 resil bm hunt #legit

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That retri did 186k dmg on you with ranged abilities only and 50% of it came from that OP censure. Basically for me, a good way to fight retris would be to kite them, but since they're doing all that OP dmg at long distance its kinda impossible.

And you wonder why we want AT core on Warsong. Just take a look at the ladders, I don't remember seeing such a thing while playing retail. Neltharion 2s - out of top 100 teams 57 have rets in them, in Warsong out of top 100 teams, 49 have rets in them. Now compare this to all the other 'op' classes everyone complains about such as rogues with pve items and stuff, there are barely 20 rogues in top 100.

Also take in note that I'm not playing any of the classes mentioned above, I'm playing a resto druid... and the struggle is real compared to playing on old AT or pre-wipe Warsong. I could easily get in top 10 2s/3s, but I won't go into details as I'm not trying to sound cocky or pretend I'm something more than the rest of the players. It's damn obvious that something is wrong when censure is ticking for more than my Regrowth heal...

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Originally Posted by Draconic123

And you wonder why we want AT core on Warsong. Just take a look at the ladders, I don't remember seeing such a thing while playing retail. Neltharion 2s - out of top 100 teams 57 have rets in them, in Warsong out of top 100 teams, 49 have rets in them. Now compare this to all the other 'op' classes everyone complains about such as rogues with pve items and stuff, there are barely 20 rogues in top 100.

Also take in note that I'm not playing any of the classes mentioned above, I'm playing a resto druid... and the struggle is real compared to playing on old AT or pre-wipe Warsong. I could easily get in top 10 2s/3s, but I won't go into details as I'm not trying to sound cocky or pretend I'm something more than the rest of the players. It's damn obvious that something is wrong when censure is ticking for more than my Regrowth heal...

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Does warsong even have enough players to make 100 teams? ayy

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Originally Posted by Trebelz

I love seeing people type/say this type of stuff like the difference in damage would be 0 if this or that were to be working as intended. As Bakura already said and I will say as well. I and possibly anyone playing against a Retribution Paladin would rather your class be fixed and not have to worry about being nuked by a overscaling DoT at RANGE while you are inside of a cc such as cyclone or whatnot. So lets say they fix paladins... tell me how are you gonna pull that same damage from within a cyclone if your DoT is no longer overscaling and now you must be within range to utilize your Templar's Verdict? If you mean to tell me that within a CC you can still shave off about 20%+ of a players HP without an overscaling DoT and with a "fixed" TV instead and can prove this; then you would be the first. Also possibly the most skillful retribution paladin and possibly Houdini. It feels like retribution paladins are some what ranged dps as well as melee dps as long as this bug exists.

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Well as you know (or atleast I hope) Censure's damage is fairly weak stacking up, the whole ******ed damage from it only ever happens at 5 stacks. Now anyone with a brain will not let this happen and kite us till it drops and come back in for more damage. I would much rather take the increased up front damage from a TV fix than a long *** wait to hit op ******ed damage that can eventually fall off. Also 90% ret comps (the legit ones) will hardwitch if someone trinkets a Rep/Scatter/Blind and kill in HoJ...Yea TV damage is more important than Censure there...

Bakura I will reply to you later when I have more time.