Proposition: Cataclysm into mists of pandaria update (q2 2016)

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Originally Posted by Rivendare

Rewind back before Moltdown and you will see that Cataclysm was a FORMIDABLE contender when it came to the popularity of each expansion. (And this was post-MoP release.)

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Once guilds where done with dragon soul, people just stopped, unless they did pvp or sold pve runs. Goto the battel.net/reddit forums under wow and look it up, im srsly not going to hold your hand on settled consensus on 3 yr old pve content, the pve community was highly disappointed, fed up with the end game and gave up on perpetuating it.

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Originally Posted by Moddy

I like cata

Fire Lands was fun, Dragon Soul was terrible

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Its right there, just because i liked aspects of cata, including some of its instances doesn't mean as i whole i believe it was a success.

But keep cherry-picking what i say and wrap it with false equivalences.

I like the new character models of mop but i think pvp power is ****. Get the point?

As a Wotlk player i vote Cata must stay. I know its a stretch for developers, but its good expansion. Also there are people who love Cata the most, like i love Wotlk, so for them i say HELL NO TO MOP.

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Originally Posted by Moddy

But keep cherry-picking what i say and wrap it with false equivalences.

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I don't exactly know what I falsely equated here.

But anyways, I understand how the PvE community felt left out when they were stuck with grinding DS for round about 14 months. There wasn't really much to do after you were full BiS (except maybe PvP and farm achievements). But that was the same case for MoP, and how they were left with SOO for well over a year (iirc even longer than Cata had DS). So I don't really think an update to MoP would do our Cata servers justice because once people get BiS again, the cycle repeats.

Ok, I just want to ask this, I guess I need an honest answer here. If you don't close cata, how much time will you take to start again the development of that expansion? With MoP in front of you too. How much time do you plan to spend on wotlk and move on to MoP before cata? 6 months? 1 year? More? Can a dev or gm or some1 from the staff give an honest and (at least for me) important answer?

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Originally Posted by Rivendare

I don't exactly know what I falsely equated here..

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Not thinking someone can like certain aspects of an expansion but still think said expansion is **** as a whole is an example.

It largely wasn't the content that killed it for the PVE community, but the length of time of which content was released. Dedicated PVE guilds learned quickly to prepare for large drawn out content designed to keep people occupied for months, but instead of the content taking months it took in some cases weeks, leaving long areas of nothing but repeating, in catas case, raid(s) that were very much a recreation of a terrible experiences for a lot of people. There was no incentive on downing frustrating raids on a weekly basis; so people eventually just stopped until new content came out.

MOP has new content, hence its higher popularity, and the majority of its content is more enjoyable than catas, ppl who do constant pvp may not care but the pve community does, which is why the population is so low on the cata servers.

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Originally Posted by To****o

Ok, I just want to ask this, I guess I need an honest answer here. If you don't close cata, how much time will you take to start again the development of that expansion? With MoP in front of you too. How much time do you plan to spend on wotlk and move on to MoP before cata? 6 months? 1 year? More? Can a dev or gm or some1 from the staff give an honest and (at least for me) important answer?

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Originally Posted by kickicc7f

When I read this paragraph
it seems that we only have 2 options:

1st option: we all upgrade to MOP
2nd option: keep CATA realm but do not expect update at all.

Tell me if I'm wrong.

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Originally Posted by Agramon

Pretty much, yes... however, Cataclysm will get updates but not more often than it gets now.

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If you're happy/unhappy with the progress of cata, the devs are telling you to be just as happy/unhappy with it for the foreseeable future.