PAY to PLAY - literally

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Originally Posted by Proterean

It's not a monthly payment, it's 30 days after you obtain something from the store. You can nearly run a year from a single donation. Theere's a reason why it's called temporary as well, we don't aim this to be a permanent solution. The only reason why it's like this is because we want only people from Lordaeron to be able to skip Lordaeron's queue.

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what do you mean " only people from lorderon" you can buy 1 coin item to skip queue.anyone who have 1 coin ( almost all old molten players have some coins left and 1 coins is like nothing you cant do anything with it anyway other then that. ) will buy a item to skip the queue regardless if hes main realm is lorderon.however all the new players who moved to warmane specifically for LORDERON realm and play only on it will be forced to donate now.so... this is not really helping lorderon players its just a system to make new people donate or you try to make some coins drain system that will make people donate even more.

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Originally Posted by Skoobydoo

what do you mean " only people from lorderon" you can buy 1 coin item to skip queue.anyone who have 1 coin ( almost all old molten players have some coins left ) will buy a item to skip the queue regardless if hes main realm is lorderon.however all the new players who moved to warmane specifically for LORDERON realm and play only on it will be forced to donate now.so... this is not really helping lorderon players its just a system to make new people donate.

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If you cannot donate 10€, then you should wait in queue.

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Originally Posted by Skoobydoo

what do you mean " only people from lorderon" you can buy 1 coin item to skip queue.anyone who have 1 coin ( almost all old molten players have some coins left and 1 coins is like nothing you cant do anything with it anyway other then that. ) will buy a item to skip the queue regardless if hes main realm is lorderon.however all the new players who moved to warmane specifically for LORDERON realm and play only on it will be forced to donate now.so... this is not really helping lorderon players its just a system to make new people donate or you try to make some coins drain system that will make people donate even more.

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So, you have a problem with the server trying to fund itself? You will only stop complaining when the server ends?

Everybody is asking the wrong questions here. You should be asking what the cheapest item on Lordaeron store is to skip the queue?

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Originally Posted by Skoobydoo

what do you mean " only people from lorderon" you can buy 1 coin item to skip queue.anyone who have 1 coin ( almost all old molten players have some coins left and 1 coins is like nothing you cant do anything with it anyway other then that. ) will buy a item to skip the queue regardless if hes main realm is lorderon.however all the new players who moved to warmane specifically for LORDERON realm and play only on it will be forced to donate now.so... this is not really helping lorderon players its just a system to make new people donate or you try to make some coins drain system that will make people donate even more.

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Dude nobody is forcing you to donate. If you don't want to, then sit in the queue and stfu!

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Originally Posted by Arbiterone

So, you have a problem with the server trying to fund itself? You will only stop complaining when the server ends?

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no i dont.i am premium member aswell and will pay the coins to skip queue.also sonce warmane try to avoid P2W shop it does make sense to come up with some system to get funds in lord,but call it as it is not " we do this for people who only play LORDEARON" because that system will benefit wayyyy more older players and people who play on other realms then LORDEARON population where most players are fresh.

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Originally Posted by Arbiterone

So, you have a problem with the server trying to fund itself? You will only stop complaining when the server ends?

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I wouldn't bother trying to explain them that everything needs "fuel" to run.

I guess the closest thing would be telling them that their complaining would be their parents telling them "wtf you want food? i gave u a house already!", then they realize that everything costs something.

well it is personally for me still hard to donate again to warmane.because for 4 euro extra a month im then on retail. as much as i love wotlk... but with a lot of ddos and downtime crap and sometimes and cocky community it is still hard t make the flip. im an in between to donate again. however i like idea's website transmog etc is verry verry nice! what i miss in the list is insta 80 and max proffesions though imo.

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Originally Posted by Skoobydoo

no i dont.i am premium member aswell and will pay the coins to skip queue.but call it as it is not " we do this for people who only play LORDEARON" because that system will benefit wayyyy more older players and people who play on other realms then LORDEARON population where most players are fresh.

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The server needs to make money. It hasn't been doing that, this is how they want to solve that issue. It is not going to break the server or ruin Lordaeron. it literally changes nothing... well except the fact that i don't have to wait 3 hours to play the game. I've donated $100 to Warmane/Molten over the years on multiple accounts, and I will absolutely pay more to skip the queue on this server. they have made it pretty damn clear from the start that Lordaeron was basically a separate entity from the rest of Warmanes severs. You're entire issue is that you feel entitled to something just because you've donated in the past. Your donation in the past was for w/e the hell you wanted then, not for the stuff you want now. People like to pretend like you're donating out of the kindness of their hearts, which is absolutely never the case. You donated because you wanted something and they gave you what you wanted then, you're not entitled to new **** today.

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Originally Posted by bellium

well it is personally for me still hard to donate again to warmane.because for 4 euro extra a month im then on retail. as much as i love wotlk... but with a lot of ddos and downtime crap and sometimes and cocky community it is still hard t make the flip. im an in between to donate again. however i like idea's website transmog etc is verry verry nice! what i miss in the list is insta 80 and max proffesions though imo.

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retail is pretty much free to play nowdays aslong as you do weekly old raids on more then 1 char you will get the gold to pay your sub.problem is WOD is simple not worth the time.

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Originally Posted by Dartigan

The server needs to make money. It hasn't been doing that, this is how they want to solve that issue. It is not going to break the server or ruin Lordaeron. it literally changes nothing... well except the fact that i don't have to wait 3 hours to play the game. I've donated $100 to Warmane/Molten over the years on multiple accounts, and I will absolutely pay more to skip the queue on this server. they have made it pretty damn clear from the start that Lordaeron was basically a separate entity from the rest of Warmanes severs. You're entire issue is that you feel entitled to something just because you've donated in the past. Your donation in the past was for w/e the hell you wanted then, not for the stuff you want now. People like to pretend like you're donating out of the kindness of their hearts, which is absolutely never the case. You donated because you wanted something and they gave you what you wanted then, you're not entitled to new **** today.

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1. i like how you ignore half of my post or you simple did not read it.
2.you need to check the meaning DONATING

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Originally Posted by bellium

well it is personally for me still hard to donate again to warmane.because for 4 euro extra a month im then on retail. as much as i love wotlk... but with a lot of ddos and downtime crap and sometimes and cocky community it is still hard t make the flip. im an in between to donate again. however i like idea's website transmog etc is verry verry nice! what i miss in the list is insta 80 and max proffesions though imo.

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How is it 4 euro less than retail? Sounds to me they are asking for the absolutely minimum which if I'm correct is a item that is 3 coins on the Lordaeron store. This means that 10 euros will get you 3 months of skipping the queue. 1 month on retail is 13 euros which means its literally 10 euros each month cheaper and unlike retail it isn't required for you to pay it.

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Originally Posted by Skoobydoo

retail is pretty much free to play nowdays aslong as you do weekly old raids on more then 1 char you will get the gold to pay your sub.problem is WOD is simple not worth the time.

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That's hardly an argument. Someone still paid for those WoW tokens. Whether you purchased your sub with gold or cash, Blizzard is still getting paid, and actually they get paid more when you purchase with gold. Absolutely pointless argument.

Also I;m very well aware what donating means, but can you tell me honestly that that's what you're doing here? They call it donations for legal purposes but in reality you are purchasing a service from them.

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Originally Posted by Dartigan

That's hardly an argument. Someone still paid for those WoW tokens. Whether you purchased your sub with gold or cash, Blizzard is still getting paid, and actually they get paid more when you purchase with gold. Absolutely pointless argument.

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wtf did you just said? people who paid for tokens are people who dont mind to do it or people who simple want to buy gold.
however if you DO NOT want to pay with real money you have the option to pay with gold.and the person i was talking to said "well it is personally for me still hard to donate again to warmane.because for 4 euro extra a month im then on retail."

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Originally Posted by Skoobydoo

wtf did you just said? people who paid for tokens are people who dont mind to do it or people who simple want to buy gold.
however if you DO NOT want to pay with realm money you have the option to pay with gold.and the person i was talking to said "well it is personally for me still hard to donate again to warmane.because for 4 euro extra a month im then on retail." sooo again wtf are you even talking about.

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You said that WoW is basically Free To Play now because of WoW Tokens. I said, and let me be very clear on how I word this. You're argument is pointless BECAUSE somebody still paid for those tokens. Therefore even though you bought a wow token with gold, somebody still purchased it with cash. The game IS NOT free to play. Just because the cash didn't come out of your pockets, does not mean it didn't come from somewhere.

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Originally Posted by Dartigan

You said that WoW is basically Free To Play now because of WoW Tokens. I said, and let me be very clear on how I word this. You're argument is pointless BECAUSE somebody still paid for those tokens. Therefore even though you bought a wow token with gold, somebody still purchased it with cash. The game IS NOT free to play. Just because the cash didn't come out of your pockets, does not mean it didn't come from somewhere.

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you are taking my words completely out of the context..........