After 5 years of PVP on Cata, Mop and Wod i finally said ill give WOTLK a try

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October 22, 2015
bornaa82

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Originally Posted by Lynea

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I'm not a fan of people's need for e-dick stroking, but let's be real. "But I haz more binds and spells on mop than I do on wotlk!" That's probably because you're doing it wrong, not to mention that ability bloat was not a good thing in most cases. The game was dumbed down across the board. You know it. Your mother knows it. Your dog knows it.

I won't say that there aren't parts of mop that are good, but pvp is not one of them. Denying that means you are naive, or you're a fanboy. There's a reason why Blizzard was doing massive overhaul mid-expansion in pvp, and why they overhauled it again at the launch of Warlords, and plan to (yet again) at the launch of Legion.

well thats good reasononing.... "yall are fanboiz lez be real yall r wrong im right".....we really needed you in this discussion
October 22, 2015
bornaa82

and on the record i'd love it if wotlk pvp was good and that the game has the same complexity as newer expansions.....its highest populated, everything works...awesome! ...i was really looking forward to playing Loarderon but in the end after playing new expansions the wotlk pvp mechanics seem so old, slow, outdated, simple and boring that unfortunately the Lordaeron dream went into sh.i.t.ters....and no, im not happy about it at all and sheeting here onforums on wotlk making threads because of it.....im sad and disappointed actually
October 22, 2015
Panofsky

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Originally Posted by bornaa82

and on the record i'd love it if wotlk pvp was good and that the game has the same complexity as newer expansions.....its highest populated, everything works...awesome! ...i was really looking forward to playing Loarderon but in the end after playing new expansions the wotlk pvp mechanics seem so old, slow, outdated, simple and boring that unfortunately the Lordaeron dream went into sh.i.t.ters....and no, im not happy about it at all and sheeting here onforums on wotlk making threads because of it.....im sad and disappointed actually

Which explains a lot about your opinion of wotlk pvp. You didn't even reach lvl 80 and yet you are crying about it. I can hear you crying about the fact you have been killed by a group of lvl 20 mobs from here.
October 22, 2015
bornaa82

yeah i didnt reach lvl 80 on blackrock....killed by lvl 20 mobs?....your reasoning just hit the rock bottom and its really really thin as it is
October 22, 2015
sbh1fr

why don't you go to arena junkies and read the Gladiators and R1 players opinions rather then just arguing here and question other player skill and credibility?
@arkanys if you compare s15,s10 and s7 respectively : the best seasons for each expansions ,you will found that s7 was the best .
October 23, 2015
bornaa82

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Originally Posted by sbh1fr

why don't you go to arena junkies and read the Gladiators and R1 players opinions rather then just arguing here and question other player skill and credibility?
@arkanys if you compare s15,s10 and s7 respectively : the best seasons for each expansions ,you will found that s7 was the best .

its just nostalgia...sure maybe the people had the most fun then and was best for them, but now if you compare them its just silly. and if most of retail people played wotlk now it would be like wtf is this sheet who hijacked me, fired up the DeLorean and took me back in time what is this the wild wild west omg?
October 23, 2015
sbh1fr

Depends really on people taste,don't forget that the numbers of subscriptions decreased dramatically and many famous players quit the game for many reasons .One of it is the pvp quality and most of the remaining one are either new players(from mop time) or making money through boost and pilot.
you can check this link if you want ,many pros joined Lordaeron .

http://www.arenajunkies.com/topic/32...aunched-today/

You mentioned Hydra and he was so upset and quit during mop for example.The best disc priest actually "Mehh" skiped entire mop and was playing AT....

Players enjoy Wotlk pvp(which was not balanced by the way) and they are just trying every new expansions for few weeks then they just leave again(cata,mop and wod).

About the videos you are linking ,in my opinions even if the game become easier ,top players remains on the top and they will found their way to the top and overall player skill right now is higher then it was 6 years back,people improve and it's easier to learn now (tutorials,streams videos),back on time the gap between a gladiator and overage 2k2 players was huge and you can really get overplayed (i don't mean 1 shot over playstyle) .
October 23, 2015
Panofsky

The point is that this thread has been made to argue if cata and mop pvp could be considered more complicated than the wotlk one. No, it's not. It's a fact. It's just different. If you wanna play mop it's your choice, we don't give a **** about it but the argument which lets you believe that a game had to be more complicated just because you have more buttons to press is invalid. And if you want to compare two different expansions try to play both of them at the same level.
October 23, 2015
bornaa82

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Originally Posted by Panofsky

The point is that this thread has been made to argue if cata and mop pvp could be considered more complicated than the wotlk one. No, it's not. It's a fact. It's just different. If you wanna play mop it's your choice, we don't give a **** about it but the argument which lets you believe that a game had to be more complicated just because you have more buttons to press is invalid. And if you want to compare two different expansions try to play both of them at the same level.

"no its not" is not proof or argument....link me already some **** to prove your point and not some random dood playing 2v2 warrior of all classes...top wotlk plays something let me compare it to mop footage i linked ty
October 23, 2015
Panofsky

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Originally Posted by bornaa82

"no its not" is not proof or argument....link me already some **** to prove your point and not some random dood playing 2v2 warrior of all classes...top wotlk plays something let me compare it to mop footage i linked ty

You are a living nonsense. For the last time: play it, don't watch it, it's not a tv show, it's a videogame, play it! Or is it too hard to find a partner to reach a decent 2s and 3s rating? Wotlk mother****er, do you play it? (quote)
October 23, 2015
bornaa82

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Originally Posted by Panofsky

You are a living nonsense. For the last time: play it, don't watch it, it's not a tv show, it's a videogame, play it! Or is it too hard to find a partner to reach a decent 2s and 3s rating? Wotlk mother****er, do you play it? (quote)

ill rephrase this big excuse of a quote of yours for you:. "no i cant find any good wotlk footage because all looks like pure crap" ...but why? ill tell you why...cuz m echanich are slow **** outated and boring...i enjoy a good super mario game here n there but dont try to convince me its uber complex compared to new games ty

and once again if you can try to comprehend that...i want to see what the most skilled best people on wotlk can do with classes comps and arenas to show the complexity of mechanics.....i dotn wanna practice a ****ty expansion for years to be sure its crap ty
October 23, 2015
sbh1fr

http://www.warcraftmovies.com/movieview.php?id=133081
October 24, 2015
Arkannys

@sbh1fr Hydra quit wow when he started to realise how bad disc was and then he came back to play 5.4+ as Holy.
October 24, 2015
bornaa82

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Originally Posted by Arkannys

@sbh1fr Hydra quit wow when he started to realise how bad disc was and then he came back to play 5.4+ as Holy.

was just gonna say...half of his footage is from mop as holy so.....and ye ok his wotlk videos are ok hes a very skilled player he plays nice but those are actually a really good example of how different the mechanics are compared to mop....as someone alreay mentioned....more spells...more ways to interact with your oponents and teammates...more ways to react to different situations and create different scenarios....more approaches...more tactics....

ps: arkannys seen you and mage in arena a few times if im not mistaken if your that op half geared holy priest that was at 2600 last reset? we even beat u once (as a gay rdudu warr comp that we no longer play due to warrior healer gayness in general) ...you guys really playin it well :)
October 24, 2015
Arkannys

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Originally Posted by bornaa82

was just gonna say...half of his footage is from mop as holy so.....and ye ok his wotlk videos are ok hes a very skilled player he plays nice but those are actually a really good example of how different the mechanics are compared to mop....as someone alreay mentioned....more spells...more ways to interact with your oponents and teammates...more ways to react to different situations and create different scenarios....more approaches...more tactics....

ps: arkannys seen you and mage in arena a few times if im not mistaken if your that op half geared holy priest that was at 2600 last reset? we even beat u once (as a gay rdudu warr comp that we no longer play due to warrior healer gayness in general) ...you guys really playin it well :)

Well im Holy priest and i usually play 2s with a mage but i just got to 2300, whats your ingame name?

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