[MoP] Solution for undergeared players in Battlegrounds / faster gearing

Simple solution - fix honor <>justice exchange. Low geared players could run dungeons to earn easy justice and convert them to honor to buy PvP gear. On retail from my experience I could gear up faster running dungeons and exchanging currency. Dungeons are so fast especially if you have good geared DPS who can carry you, the most important thing is that you get guaranteed good amount of justice points unlike in BGs you can loose and get only small reward. This is ideal for newcomers and also for experienced/geared players. The only thing that can go wrong is wiping in dungeons but cmon..that shouldnever happen.
Please vote up and get this fixed, trust me it will only improve player quality.

https://www.warmane.com/bugtracker/report/1183
https://www.warmane.com/bugtracker/report/1118

The idea is good but let's face it. People prefer to join BG's in green items rather than invest a small sum of gold in contender set to get some bonuses so that they don't die in 2 seconds. If they refuse to invest 3-4k gold in a contender set (that means 1 hour of doing dailies), there is almost no hope they will join RDF's to trade JP for honor.

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Originally Posted by Feralbeard

Simple solution - fix honor <>justice exchange. Low geared players could run dungeons to earn easy justice and convert them to honor to buy PvP gear. On retail from my experience I could gear up faster running dungeons and exchanging currency. Dungeons are so fast especially if you have good geared DPS who can carry you, the most important thing is that you get guaranteed good amount of justice points unlike in BGs you can loose and get only small reward. This is ideal for newcomers and also for experienced/geared players. The only thing that can go wrong is wiping in dungeons but cmon..that shouldnever happen.
Please vote up and get this fixed, trust me it will only improve player quality.

https://www.warmane.com/bugtracker/report/1183
https://www.warmane.com/bugtracker/report/1118

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I dont ****in know why isnt it enabled by now the thing is its not bugged they disabled it on the beggining so pvp people dont get pve gear

it's a feature that worked on retail yet not here.
"blizzlike" at it's best I'd say.

I dont even bother queing with wasteland set, I try to buy the most blues I can by farming dailies but that's me.. still I get 3 shoted by other people it doesnt matter I still did what I could to get the "best" gear I can so far for now, I gotta get farmed a tonload of times until I get some pvp gear in the future..

Now for the topic I wish I could get some gearing quickly I already suggested dreadful set for vote points at least as starter.. since they wont add crafted malevolent until prideful or 5.4 patch hits here, finding a "JP farm" group usually takes to have way more than just wasteland these days which is another reason why some people preffer to que straight into bg's with greenies or naked.
I totally agree they should allow people to trade jp into honor and back.. sadly I dont truly see it comming but yet we're playing on a "blizzlike" server the irony.

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Originally Posted by Feralbeard

Simple solution - fix honor <>justice exchange. Low geared players could run dungeons to earn easy justice and convert them to honor to buy PvP gear. On retail from my experience I could gear up faster running dungeons and exchanging currency. Dungeons are so fast especially if you have good geared DPS who can carry you, the most important thing is that you get guaranteed good amount of justice points unlike in BGs you can loose and get only small reward. This is ideal for newcomers and also for experienced/geared players. The only thing that can go wrong is wiping in dungeons but cmon..that shouldnever happen.
Please vote up and get this fixed, trust me it will only improve player quality.

https://www.warmane.com/bugtracker/report/1183
https://www.warmane.com/bugtracker/report/1118

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Or they could enable craftable Malevolent. Because as much as I hate it when players don't want to spend the money on contender gear, they have a point: it's completely obsolete against opponents in grievous. Green, contender, it makes barely any difference.

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Originally Posted by KINGGOB****E

Or they could enable craftable Malevolent. Because as much as I hate it when players don't want to spend the money on contender gear, they have a point: it's completely obsolete against opponents in grievous. Green, contender, it makes barely any difference.

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they wont add it now and all because we're not at patch 5.4, it's some sort of rare blessing that the trinket is out there it's really helpful for non humans and more for starters that know of his existence.. they added crafted malevolent on 5.4 because prideful it's 550 vs 450 contender or 408 you know how it will end.. now should be the moment that they should add crafted malevolent honestly, 476 vs 500-522 at least gives you a few more seconds to re act and do your thing.

This is sad, the unavailability of this feature is making game play difficult for players who need to gear up AND for well geared players who want to have better battleground experience. Warmane needs to consider enabling this as this doesn't seem like a bug and has been purposely disabled for no reason.

I am SICK of getting ~250k hp players in full greens, in my BGs but I understand they can't do anything about it because Contender Set is waaaaaaaaaay to expensive on my server, considering the fact that you also need to pay a hefty amount of gold for flight training @ level 90

Good job community, it made significant jump in priority list.

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Originally Posted by KINGGOB****E

Or they could enable craftable Malevolent. Because as much as I hate it when players don't want to spend the money on contender gear, they have a point: it's completely obsolete against opponents in grievous. Green, contender, it makes barely any difference.

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Last I checked it's there. I bought one on my Mage and Priest neither of whom are human (Orc/Undead).

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Originally Posted by Katarsis

they wont add it now and all because we're not at patch 5.4, it's some sort of rare blessing that the trinket is out there it's really helpful for non humans and more for starters that know of his existence.. they added crafted malevolent on 5.4 because prideful it's 550 vs 450 contender or 408 you know how it will end.. now should be the moment that they should add crafted malevolent honestly, 476 vs 500-522 at least gives you a few more seconds to re act and do your thing.

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Well accordning to wowhead Crafted Malevolent was added in 5.4.0 same as Grievous gear as you can see from this

Crafted Malevolent example: http://www.wowhead.com/item=98926/cr...ate-chestpiece

Grievous season 14: http://www.wowhead.com/item=100255/g...ragonhide-helm

look when are they added, its patch 5.4.0

They should update our professions to 5.4.0 then.

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Originally Posted by Feralbeard

Simple solution - fix honor <>justice exchange. Low geared players could run dungeons to earn easy justice and convert them to honor to buy PvP gear. On retail from my experience I could gear up faster running dungeons and exchanging currency. Dungeons are so fast especially if you have good geared DPS who can carry you, the most important thing is that you get guaranteed good amount of justice points unlike in BGs you can loose and get only small reward. This is ideal for newcomers and also for experienced/geared players. The only thing that can go wrong is wiping in dungeons but cmon..that shouldnever happen.
Please vote up and get this fixed, trust me it will only improve player quality.

https://www.warmane.com/bugtracker/report/1183
https://www.warmane.com/bugtracker/report/1118

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They just dont do pve for pvp gear dude. They dont care for pve, like myself. And I will go low geared in bgs .

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Originally Posted by toniplavna

They just dont do pve for pvp gear dude. They dont care for pve, like myself. And I will go low geared in bgs .

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I do not mind that there are other low geared people in my group. I just hate doing BGs with my crap geared characters cuz it takes forever to kill somebody.
I better enjoy few days of relaxing dungeon runs and buy full PvP gear with exchanging justice points.
I hate being hopeless in BGs, I hate losing to clickers with higher gear... me love smashing, me smash dungeon bosses for a while... Warmane give us reason to smash dungeon bosses...
The other thing is, well not about PvP, there is no reasonable thing to spend justice points at all...

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Originally Posted by Feralbeard

I better enjoy few days of relaxing dungeon runs and buy full PvP gear with exchanging justice points.

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they dont want that sadly, you said the main reason why they keep this disabled. Yet they are smart enough to not allow crafted malevolent gear to be released.. once again the irony when the entire staff speaks about "blizzlike".

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Originally Posted by Katarsis

they dont want that sadly, you said the main reason why they keep this disabled. Yet they are smart enough to not allow crafted malevolent gear to be released.. once again the irony when the entire staff speaks about "blizzlike".

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Please stop pretending to know the exact reasons as to why this is disabled. You are only speculating, and should stop using statements such as "they dont want that".

Staff likely has a reason (albeit likely a poor one, lol :P), but we do not know what that reason is. The most we can do is upvote on bugtracker and try to gain attention to the issue. We should not start speculating/creating drama.

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Originally Posted by XxNotoriousxX

Please stop pretending to know the exact reasons as to why this is disabled. You are only speculating, and should stop using statements such as "they dont want that".

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You know the reason? or anything better to "enlight" us? please lay off my balls if you know what's better for you, on all honestly I dont see why you come here to create off topic just to try to attack me for what I think.. you're like me you dont know what's going on with this and their decisions and the way they go silent on some things makes it very clear you just want to believe anything else. They dont answer some questions because they dont have answers fine but on this matter it's clearly them not allowing people to gear the way it was intented on retail as well..

Dont bother reply me after this because I wont answer you again. I might get a warning for answering you "this way", but I asure you it's worth it because people like you that defend what can't be defended it's just a big rip off.