If the realm Lordaeron is split....

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I love the real Lordaeron with a passion. The population cap keeps raising due to its popularity. And no wonder! Not everyone wants to ding 80 to raid immediately. The people that choose Lordaeron want to experience the entire game and zones and lore as originally intended.
If the population gets to the point where Warmane feels it should split into two realms, I have a request. Many, many players would LOVE a PVE realm (like Blizzard-which are hugely popular) with an enabled RDF. Please consider this. If you check Blizzard's realms, you'll find that more than half of the realms are PVE. That should tell you something. Results speak louder than words. Thank you.

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Originally Posted by Timbrelle

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That should tell you something.

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Tells me why BLizzard is diein.

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Originally Posted by Timbrelle

Hi:
I love the real Lordaeron with a passion. The population cap keeps raising due to its popularity. And no wonder! Not everyone wants to ding 80 to raid immediately. The people that choose Lordaeron want to experience the entire game and zones and lore as originally intended.
If the population gets to the point where Warmane feels it should split into two realms, I have a request. Many, many players would LOVE a PVE realm (like Blizzard-which are hugely popular) with an enabled RDF. Please consider this. If you check Blizzard's realms, you'll find that more than half of the realms are PVE. That should tell you something. Results speak louder than words. Thank you.

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Once they decide its time, they will put all the fixes, all that makes lordaeron great into the other wotlk servers, which do have rdf enabled, etc. Making a new one is a very bad idea, and most likely won't happen.

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Originally Posted by Timbrelle

Many, many players would LOVE a PVE realm (like Blizzard-which are hugely popular) with an enabled RDF. Please consider this. If you check Blizzard's realms, you'll find that more than half of the realms are PVE. That should tell you something. Results speak louder than words. Thank you.

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"many many" lol no. It's actually only a tiny % of the actually population.

Also Blizzard "Half" PvE realms... are all low population except for Silvermoon EU (Alliance) and Draenor EU (Horde) which are the ONLY high population PvE realms.
Every high population realm aside from that is PvP. There is a reason why Blizzard have introduced Connected Realms, it's to keep them from shutting down entire clusters of PvE realms because they are simply dead.
Source: https://realmpop.com/eu.html

So please... No-one half good at this game cares about precious PvE realms.

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Originally Posted by Kemii

"many many" lol no. It's actually only a tiny % of the actually population.

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Where is your link to your data to support this claim?

According to your own link, 5/10 of the top 10 servers are Pve. The pie charts shows about 60/40% split pve vs pve. What were you attempting to prove here?

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So please... No-one half good at this game cares about precious PvE realms.

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One of the most self absorbed, conceited claims I have ever read. Pure toxicity.

This is strictly your opinion. Many of my friends here, including myself, would love to see a PvE realm with the Lordaeron core. And seeing as we are a small sample rate of the Warmane pop, I imagine a larger sample size would indeed show that many folks would like to see a PvE server as well. Your opinion != fact.

https://realmpop.com/us.html

Oh hey, US pie chart....PvE servers are more populated than the PvP ones. Imagine that! Your *** must be chapped from talking out of it so much.

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Originally Posted by Slaytan1c

Where is your link to your data to support this claim?

According to your own link, 5/10 of the top 10 servers are Pve. The pie charts shows about 60/40% split pve vs pve. What were you attempting to prove here?

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I see sorting by population is hard for you to figure out... So I did it for you.

http://i.imgur.com/lJtTh7g.png

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Originally Posted by Slaytan1c

https://realmpop.com/us.html

Oh hey, US pie chart....PvE servers are more populated than the PvP ones. Imagine that! Your *** must be chapped from talking out of it so much.

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Let me do this again for you, since charts are hard...
http://i.imgur.com/CgKgsY7.png

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Originally Posted by Kemii

I see sorting by population is hard for you to figure out... So I did it for you.

http://i.imgur.com/lJtTh7g.png



Let me do this again for you, since charts are hard...
http://i.imgur.com/CgKgsY7.png

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Meh, so I didint notice it wasnt sorted. Thats my mistake. Your mistake is that you ignore the big brightly colored pie charts that indicate TOTAL population, not just the "top servers" being 55/45% split EU in favor of PvP, and 58/42% split NA In favor of PvE. Wait for it....thats a pretty even split average overall! Hell, its what 6% overall in favor of PvE. Yay maths! Is THAT hard for YOU? Roflmao. I guess its easy to skew raw data to favor your own arguments when you are narrow minded. People DO like PvE. GG.


Incidentally if you are color blind, feel free to mouse over said pie charts, it actually shows the %
I made a mistake with my statement about the "top servers" because I didn't notice they were not pre sorted. Im man enough to admit that. I just crushed your "nobody likes PvE" opinion with your own data. I still bet you think your opinion is correct and will never admit to that.

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Originally Posted by Slaytan1c

Meh, so I didint notice it wasnt sorted. Thats my mistake. Your mistake is that you ignore the big brightly colored pie charts that indicate TOTAL population, not just the "top servers" being 60/40% split EU in favor of PvP, and 60/40% split NA In favor of PvE. Wait for it....thats a 50/50 split average! Is THAT hard for YOU? Roflmao. I guess its easy to skew raw data to favor your own arguments when you narrow minded. GG.

Incidentally if you are color blind, feel free to mouse over said pie charts, it actually shows the %

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And you never read through my ENTIRE POST.... Seemingly just the bits which took your fancy.

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Originally Posted by Kemii

Also Blizzard "Half" PvE realms... are all low population except for Silvermoon EU (Alliance) and Draenor EU (Horde) which are the ONLY high population PvE realms.
Every high population realm aside from that is PvP. There is a reason why Blizzard have introduced Connected Realms, it's to keep them from shutting down entire clusters of PvE realms because they are simply dead.
Source: https://realmpop.com/eu.html

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Just because there is similar amounts of each type of realm, the imbalance in population is HUGE... its like comparing Lord to ****ign Blackrock for population. Do you understand what Connected Realms are? And their importance in keeping realms online? Have you even played retail?

Feel free to carry on trying to argue against facts I provided. It's just going to make you look dumb.

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Originally Posted by Kemii

"many many" lol no. It's actually only a tiny % of the actually population.

Also Blizzard "Half" PvE realms... are all low population except for Silvermoon EU (Alliance) and Draenor EU (Horde) which are the ONLY high population PvE realms.
Every high population realm aside from that is PvP. There is a reason why Blizzard have introduced Connected Realms, it's to keep them from shutting down entire clusters of PvE realms because they are simply dead.
Source: https://realmpop.com/eu.html

So please... No-one half good at this game cares about precious PvE realms.

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Proudmoore, Stormrage, Area 52, Zul'jin are a few more and have higher pops that the highest pop PvP realm, so yea youre wrong.

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Originally Posted by Ferret79

Proudmoore, Stormrage, Area 52, Zul'jin are a few more and have higher pops that the highest pop PvP realm, so yea youre wrong.

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I linked you the US graph above sorted by population. (scroll up 3 posts)
You are incorrect.
There are there in the top 20 however outnumbered by PvP realms.

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Originally Posted by Kemii

And you never read through my ENTIRE POST.... Seemingly just the bits which took your fancy.



Just because there is similar amounts of each type of realm, the imbalance in population is HUGE... its like comparing Lord to ****ign Blackrock for population. Do you understand what Connected Realms are? And their importance in keeping realms online? Have you even played retail?

Feel free to carry on trying to argue against facts I provided. It's just going to make you look dumb.

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I know precisely what connected realms are. I hated them because my server pop was fine the way it was during peak, but 10 million farmers now flooded all my favorite farming spots during off peak times, not to mention pretty much killed off any remaining realm pride. I was from Medivh to start. I was in the Guild Ascent at the time, and our raid killed the world first Ragnaros, and had a HUGE part in opening AQ gates first in a close race with Mannoroth server. (you know off peak, when your server pop was low so was subject to being "connected") Did YOU play retail?

Regardless of being "connected" pop is still pop. A player doesnt get to be a "bonus" number in the pop because they are in a connected realm. Raw data is raw data. Stop being obtuse.

I was right. You choose to ignore the data, that shows that the entirety of WoW on EU/NA. Like every single player from NA, and EU from a % base, is skewed 6% in favor of PvE server in total population. I don't care about the highest population servers. I care about raw, unmitigated total data, which clearly disproves your OPINION, that "Nobody of any real skill cares about PvE" which is nothing but a crass unprovable statement. You can't tell who is skilled and who is not according to mere numbers. What you can do is see what % of players exist on PvE or PvP realms. Again. Your own data, proves you wrong. And you proved my own point that you would never fess up to being wrong. GG. Again.

Oh, and btw, are you assuming that PvP realms connect to PvE realms? Because if that is the assumption you are working under, in order to arrive at what you think the numbers show...well, you are an ***** because PvP links to PvP, PvE to PvE. God I hope that is the case so I have more reason to laugh at you.

Oh, and P.S. China which has the highest pop of all atm, has >>>6<<< PvP servers, and 36 PvE servers, and some of the highest skilled players in the world (and gold farmers I assume). So.....NOBODY clearly cares about PvE. This exchange really made my day.

funny thing is Realm POP say on his front page :

"Who - It's important to remember that we're simply counting the number of characters seen for each category. This does not mean the number of players, nor the number of actively played characters. We can't efficiently get activity data yet, so some characters may not have been played for a long time."

you guys went full ******,never go full ****** haha discussion is worthless,and if you don't like to pvp,just don't...same for pvpers (pvpers need to pve because some pve items being BiS for their class)

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Originally Posted by Uzihunter

you guys went full ******,never go full ****** haha discussion is worthless,and if you don't like to pvp,just don't...same for pvpers (pvpers need to pve because some pve items being BiS for their class)

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Oh, I PvP daily. I like PvP. The argument isnt worthless. People would like to see a Warmane PvE server was the whole point. All i was doing was showing Kemii that the available data shows that they are completely wrong about nobody wanting PvE.

And for the record, I didnt quite go full ******. More like Rainman.

And when you are on a PvP flagged server, it is 100% impossible to avoid PvP 100% of the time. You know the whole "world pvp" thing, and ganking.

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Originally Posted by Slaytan1c

"Nobody of any real skill cares about PvE" which is nothing but a crass unprovable statement. You can't tell who is skilled and who is not according to mere numbers.

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Sure you can, ever heard of WoWProgress? Im sure a hardcore PvE-er like yourself knows all about the PVE ladder.

Now I know these are only the Top 20, but Im sure if you carry on with this trend (at least the EU lot) that most of the top 1000 guilds with PvE progression actually belong to PvP realms.

http://i.imgur.com/1gNRGcA.png

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Originally Posted by Slaytan1c

And when you are on a PvP flagged server, it is 100% impossible to avoid PvP 100% of the time. You know the whole "world pvp" thing, and ganking.

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What? LOL.
I've had 2 PvP encounters on my PvP realm (Tarren Mill) since I came here last week... 2.
Prior to that... Frostmane.. 2 (on Timeless Isle back in MOP), Stormscale.. Never, Sylvanas, Never.

IDK where you are finding all these amazing PvP encounters.