It doesn't even involve bosses... LK fight, first phase. If OT doesn't taunt Shambling Horror (which more than likely one-shots shaman tank due to lack of armor and stamina), raid will wipe.
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It doesn't even involve bosses... LK fight, first phase. If OT doesn't taunt Shambling Horror (which more than likely one-shots shaman tank due to lack of armor and stamina), raid will wipe.
Talents that won't matter because everything you do deals 30% less threat. Guess what is the #1 priority of every tank? Hold threat. #2 is surviving. And shamans are failing at both.Quote:
Originally Posted by CaperWoW
Tell me how you never tanked WotLK raids without actually telling me.Quote:
Originally Posted by CaperWoW
Why on earth would a warrior ask for Blood Pact? They have Commanding Shout. If they need the extra hp they will use CS. If they don't,they can go with BS if there's no might for melees.Quote:
Originally Posted by CaperWoW
You are correct in this one,that was my brainfart.Quote:
Originally Posted by CaperWoW
Just to be clear,we're talking about WotLK and not tbc which no longer has servers on warmane.
Think a little more about how a shaman tank can do taunt swap fights, it's very simple.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kovachut
He can do such fights being desicated healer or DPS?)
You still didn't provide ANY valid proof for claim about "tanking" shaman.
And if you refer to Earth elemental + Ghost wolfs as taunt, it is beyond miserable > they die to one regular hit from boss, with 10 and 3 minutes cooldowns. How it gonna help in fight where you need to taunt each 40 seconds? Or any other accident? Remember, you can't blame DPS for dying to boss since your build provides dog poop threat levels that can be overtaken by anybody without effort.
So please, stop trying to act like "pro" and mislead new players.
Oh master, as your loyal subjects we wish you to enlighten us! We are but mere specks of dust compared to your brilliance! Teach us, we humbly beg you.Quote:
Originally Posted by CaperWoW
Mate, I would kindly advise you to stray away from sarcasm and from general responses when replying to other people. It doesn't defend your statements in any way. The guide you've written is not about a different playstyle or a different talent build for a dps spec, whose performance doesn't affect the outcome of a boss encounter. This thread regards the tanking role, for which there are a lot of responsibilities to consider. The rest of the 9 or 24 people rely on you doing your job properly so that the group can progress. If people are stuck on the first boss because the shaman tank can't acknowledge mechanics like the rest of the tanking specs, then it's really not the dps's fault for that happening. It's the spec that has no real tools to do the job optimally.Quote:
Originally Posted by CaperWoW
If you disagree, then my advice would be to present us with proof. At best a video of you tanking in ICC or in RS, showing us what we need to do in order to deal with the boss mechanics. This is the most effective and productive way to defend a theorycraft - with actual numbers and with videos, showing that your idea is viable. Other people have pointed out the flaws of this spec. Yes, some of them have used a mocking tone in their posts, but that doesn't make their arguments invalid. In fact, I would like to defend their reaction because you dodge the essential critique - survival, threat, and boss mechanics. You don't give a concrete information what someone needs to do in a specific boss fight. This does not speak well for your theorycraft.
So, my personal tip to you is to accept the constructive feedback and to acknowledge it properly. Again, this thread regards a role with a lot of responsibilities, so it's essential that you present accurate information.
Soon home and will be happy to answer questions!
Stop bumping this silly thread, please. You haven’t answered any questions so far. And I doubt you can.Quote:
Originally Posted by CaperWoW
I didn't say it's going to be easy. Hence you need to on top of your game to succeed, for example making sure Misdirection is present, hots buffs are present, etc.Quote:
Originally Posted by Persivaln
Still waiting for an answers for several questions you got asked. When will you be home?Quote:
Originally Posted by CaperWoW