so, taking in consideration the result of my last posts in the suggestions section, ima go ahead and just talk freeling about something thats in my mind concerning LK realms ragnaros and deathwing and their current state of pvp, arenas mainly.
Now...high ranks aside, the process of getting involved in arenas is quite the opposite of being welcoming. You gota get in there, best scenario possible is with some weird *** pos fos gear, which gives you no competitive pvp stats at ****ing all, and get slammed 10 times a week so you can farm some negligible arena points so you can get some relentless gear. Let alone the problem with pvp weapons being uterlly unaccessible, if one was to want one.
In this regard, how would a furious pvp set and offset and weapon vendor hurt the current realms? Cause if it doesnt hurt them, why dont put one in the first place?
The immediate random answer: Its not blizzlike. <.- lol nub. Having a static "season" of gear is not blizzlike in the first place.
Another randomly generated answer: Buy furious with Emblems. <- ******..that renders Honor currency useless. This mechanism is for overgeared pve people that have nothing else to do than gearing furious set and go yolo on bgs.
So yeah, what you think about having furious season vendors?
EDIT: now that i think of it, the only people benefiting from this lack of mid pvp gear is the people you buy your gear from. sounds crazy enough?
EDIT2: Now go ahead remove my post and ban me from the forums, and i shall know i spoke the truth.
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Them furious vendors
Edited: August 21, 2015
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I think I don't understand because I don't know about realms and blizzlike and all the WoW words you said, I don't know how WoW was in the past and I don't know how it is on other servers. I don't know if you are talking about Lordaeron, or if you are complaining about the present realms not having something that other servers have. And I don't know if my words will fall under the meaning of your general idea, you can buy gear with coins, if Warmane removes something from the game and puts it on sale for Coins, it's cool, because that's the way the Server is alive and running. If By some reason they removed or they won't put something in a future realm, they have their reasons, and they are the ones who have kept this server alive, it's not us, it's not because we are thousands logging in and donating money, if they didn't work for the Server everything would stop. If you are complaining because there is no way to get PvP gear because you can only get 300 Arena Points per week, and because half the server have 6.8K GS characters and play new Arena Teams so they rekt everyone in the first games, and start another team and so on and on, well yeah, keep complaining. Me and my team started to play 80 months ago, we literally had never played 80 wow before, server restarted, we got characters with the free furious gear, we played 239067 BGs a day, we lost 90% of them, we got 500 Honor each BG, while Horde got 5K honor each, we bought off pieces, then we bought nicer off pieces, then we had full Wrathful off pieces, just with honor, then we started to play Arenas, and yeah, you get super rekt, and you only can get 300, we are around 5.5 to 6.0K Gearscore already... And yes, buying the Wrathful weapons and some main pieces seems impossible, but that's the way it is, play and play and learn to play and get 2200 Team Rating, and play for months until you get the 2K arena points and stuff. Also remember to do the Emblem of Frost daily to get the OP trinkets. Just learn to lose dude, enjoy being all ****ing stressed up. It's an awesome feeling once you learn how to cope with it. My partner has 48K Health all PvP gear and I have 1763 Resilience 9K Armor 2800 SP, cloth wearer, and my GS is 5.7, so it's possible to get OP stats wit... Let me rephrase that, it's possible to get IMBA stats and play in a way that you exploit those stats, and not needing other stats, and it's possible to beat some 6.5K GS pairs... Just stop knowing how to play your chars, I bet you are a random player that has the character like... "It needs to be" The gear, the trinkets, the enchants, the gems, and the game style... Just grow up dude ;)
You know what I mean?Edited: August 21, 2015
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you already stated why they won't do this. they try to stay as close to blizzlike as possible. whether you like it or not.
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they are not even close lol
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Please educate yourself on blizzlike before you post. The realms are blizzlike for patch 3.3.5, bugs does not make the realms non-blizzlike and mechanics not working 100% like on retail also does not make it non-blizzlike, it just means that had to find a workaround that will not make the realms crash.
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Well, as far as I know, you can buy the furious gear with honor, so it's not a problem. About the furious glad weapons, you can easily replace them with those dropped by Fos/Pos HC and TOC normal. I know that those weapon lack the resilience which you need but the difference isn't so big that you will be able to fill the gap between you and a full bis geared shadowmourne warrior. So, I don't think it's so necessary to add the furious/relenteless weapon vendor. What about the Battered Hilt quest chain?
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Getting initial PVP gear wouldn't be so hard if most ally would play BGs properly. Yea you will see one to two lowbie geared sometimes in BGs but the thing is ally lose the majority of the time because its their own fault.
Notice the next time you enter a BG... horde for the most part all stay TOGETHER while ally usually split and are all over the map, thus horde just runs over ally with ease. Three ally at a flag point then 8 horde come at them, well all they can do is drop their pants to their ankles and bendover lol. Bottom line is ,if ally would simply stay together as ONE group like horde the outcomes on BGs would be very different. Granted there are horde premades with full donors and stuff, but alot of times they have lowbie geared players too in the group. The difference is , is that horde act more as ONE group rather then 4 smaller groups. I have seen low to mid geared horde in BGs totally dominate a group of ally that has players with SM and full donors in them simply because once the gate opens they all go different directions. BGs isn't totally about whos got the best gear, its about teamwork and working together in a BG. Horde has mastered this while ally seems a bit slow to understand this. There are times that one group can simply be too powerful and unbeatable even playing as ONE unite, but I would say that at least 75% of the time the odds of ally winning in BGs would be far better if they would just learn teamwork and sticking together as ONE group.
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First off, I read only original poster's message, so answering only on that.
1) As you mentioned, not blizzlike
2) Would break part of progressions (make battlegrounds useless)
3) If you want that, similar option "to face equal enemies" is already on Blackrock
4) Tens of thousands and maybe even more people have done this process, struggled to get in better position, you should be no different or it would be unfair to those who already farmed their furious set etc.
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Ok thanks for nothing.
So moving on. The problem is the mid gearing. Its not about not giving money to the server. You can buy wrath gear either way. But theres no progression untill you do like this ***** and do 10 games for 80 months or whatever the **** this ***** said.
Any case, this is not blizzlike not because of the bugs. This is static. Wont change. Meaning end game players will stay end game whilst new people will have to work against the flow in order to get into the game. Be it in pve (toc 10 5.5k gs anyone? ) or pvp doing BGs in greens , spoiling the pvp experience for everyone else, or getting demoralized in arenas playing with blues or no resil at all against people with 6k gs out of the ****ing blue because the OH SO BLIZZLIKE 1500 mmr personal on season reset.
Something is wrong.
Point is, what lordaeron is about to have, could be possible in a realm that has all the content released. There is no reason not to set vendors for items from previous seasons at lower costs. Leechers would have no point in keeping at it in BGs. People would actually play.
But hey, if you are happy grinding week after week for a ****ing off piece, lets keep it like this.
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As I mentioned, doing as you say would make bgs pretty much useless at all.
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1) Nothing in this server is blizzlike...
2) No, it would make them more valuable. I didnt say sell furious for gold. I said with honor.
3) No i dont want equal enemies, i dont give a **** about BIS people with 1600 rating.
4) So improving anything now would be bad for those who fought against it in the past. Your logic is stupid at best boy.
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1) Excact examples please
2) If you sell it for less honor, they will be less populated cus people will need it for smaller amount of time.
3) Gear is worthy, because it requires grinding, because you must earn it.
4) It would be unfair. Tons of people did it this way. Why new ones should have an easier way to do it?
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I been thinking about it, and i think the proper suggestion would be Deadly or hateful gear for less honor than furious. But since im seeing bull**** answers ima go ahead and reply:
1) When you start the season, your character has 1500 mmr no matter what gear you have. THIS is NOT blizzlike. there oyu have your exact example boy.
2) Whatever that means in english. But lets stick with Hateful / Deadly gear for now on and forget about furious.
3) Furious (or deadly) is worth ****. Its something to start gearing up. You cant really accomplish anything with this gear, except actually be able to start the grinding. Im not talking about wrathful gear nor relentless gear.
4) With your logic, which sucks, lets not open Ulduar then. Cause a lot of people farmed pos for months. It would be unfair for them if you open ulduar and make the gearing easier that way.
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1) Your text was on this server NOTHING is blizzlike... how is this everything?
2) Not sure how its called for other armor wielders but for plate which is savage saronite/ornate set can be used, cant it?
3) With this gear (saronite) you will have less hp but sometimes have more resiliance than those with higher gs, so.. (well ofc with jc pvp part...)
4) How is Ulduar easier than PoS? I mean, yes, it drops better gear, but that is harder.
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1) this is going nowhere.
2) the prices on that gear in the AH are stupid and overpriced. No one gearing up a main with greens can have the gold to buy the gear in the first place.
3) that has nothing to do with thread number 3.
4) its not easier, its just not retartded. doing pos for 4 months is ******ed even though its easier. doing ulduar to gear up is harder but its really not that ******ed as doing pos like a ****ing robot with no brains.
