Hi to everyone,
I don't usually make posts in the forum, I'm more of a passive reader tbh. But today I had a reason to "break in" my first post.
I must be one of those weirdos that actually like PvP, therefore I like fighting in Bg's and stuff. The thing is, after 20 or 30 Bg's I realized that, of all the 5 or 6 available maps or battlegrounds scenarios available, there is a massive spam of Alterac valley games for random BG (the endless and snowy map where Horde loses 90% of the times). I didn't really tried, but I suppose the queues for specific BG maps don't even work (and they don't give much honor either).
So, I wanted to ask in here, if anybody knew why is that. I take it you can shoehorn more players in Alterac than in other "take-the-flag" maps such as WG for instance. But I'm not sure if that's the reason why 90% of the games take place in Alterac or SOTA, which is really boring and repetitive (and also, imho they are the hardest ones to win, for the horde at least).
Wouldn't there be a way to make those ""Random"" BG scenarios actually "random", increasing the possibilities of fighting WG or Eye of the storm for example?
Again, I have already said I have no clue why this happens, I'm no expert so I have no knowledge about technical issues or other factors that may be key to understand this.
Thanks for clarifying me this.
edit: I meant to say "monotonous" on the title.
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Monotone BG-scenarios in Lordaeron
Edited: February 29, 2016
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Yeah, this is true, hope they fix it
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This is the 6th or 7th thread like this. There is a search function you know.
Besides there is nothing "wrong" with how the Battlegrounds are chosen, if you google search "random BG always Alterac Valley" you would realize that this isn't something Warmane did wrong, but Blizzard.
Alterac Valley is the largest Battleground, and is usually the one that takes the longest to finish. What this leads to is Alterac Valley having a higher chance of being picked because games are open for so much longer.
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Chill dude, you always come up with that "use the searcher" ****. If I created a post for this, is because I wasn't satisfied with the previous answers I found.
Your explanation makes sense, but when I was on retail this did not happen. There was a huge variety of BG scenarios, so I was just wondering if there was something wrong with the server, and if there isn't, they may be able to do something to change this, cause it makes BG annoying.
thanks for the reply btw.
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You forum hero boi, u're in every thread trash talking... Doesnt matter if it is blizzlike, blizzarde made it wrong and Warmane can tweak it like they did in past, lowering av chance, tho I dont remember on what xpac it happened.
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Blizzard's fix for this was to give people the ability to blacklist certain Battlegrounds when queuing for random. That could be a possible suggestion, but it would be a custom change should Warmane do that, which I doubt they will.
This thread talks about both the blacklisting as well as how the two larger Battlegrounds, Alterac Valley and Isle of Conquest , are frequently selected when they queue for random.
http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/10004580647
And of course there is Strand of the Ancients hate talk as well.Edited: March 3, 2016
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Then they should definitely try to do something similar cause it's boring as hell
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You should check out AV and SOTA battles on youtube. The PvP may become more fun to you also you can get good tips there, of course depending on which videos you watch. Don't watch trash it can only make the situation worse.
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Thanks for the advice, but I got enough years on my plate playing the game as to know that AV and SOTA really suck . The main focus is not pvp, but pve (either it is capturing a base 300km away from your starting position, killing some elite boss or ramming gates for no reason).
The ones about capturing the flag or defending 5 bases involve much more pvp engagements and fun. I don't think it is that hard to develop some kind of filter for the random BG, it would improve the PvP experience very much.
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Blacklist was added in mop, so they would have to make a random script cough cough. Best would be to delete those bgs: av,ioc,sota ,but that wont happen so they should make av/ioc/sota weekends. Enabled on friday disabled on sunday. So rest of the week can be played w/o that crap.
On the other hand ,they can finally fix specific queue and lower proc chance to pop any of those in rbg.
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Absolutely agree with your comment Kempachu.
Would be great to see someone from the server's staff giving their opinion on this, and whether they plan to do something about it or just ignore the issue.
Erasing those two (ridiculously long) BG may be a drastic option, but at least they could add that filter, blacklist or whatever you wanna call it. If I don't want to play on those BG's, why am I forced to do so again and again?
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Why the heck ppl think that AV and IoC are the worst BGs? They rely more on strategy, not gear, compared to other BGs. Thats the point of BGs - strategy. If you want to show your individual skills, play arena. For example is WSG team with lower gear / without healers will feel hopeless...while in AV and IoC ppl with less gear can run in group and spam cc, buff the raid, use vehicles and be more useful, not to mention stealth classes... - in my opinion those BGs are more balanced and more fun.
I guess people are just clueless about objectives and want some casual butchery with their half or full raid premades.
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No, those bgs are pve maps, pointles and hated by most ppl playing wow, either retail or pservers. Lordaeron already got server side delay, and it is crap for melee classes, now imagine those #hypesota malaco, and av's.
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More balanced? Are you serious? Balanced? Out of 50 times I was at AV, I may have won no more than 4 or 5. Maybe less, I can't recall with accuracy right now. So do not tell me it is balanced, cause that'd be the last thing it is.
And Strategy? Tell that to the players in those BG, they don't give a flying buck about strategy no matter how hard you tell them in Raid chat to do this or that. Because if somebody wants to kill some NPC's they will just go run some dungeons or raids.
For what other reasons but to show my pvp skills and teamplay would I go to BG otherwise? You don't seem to get the point why BG's are made for. Arena is the hardcore pvp competition part, most players just wanna chill in a different kind of pvp that's not limited to a 2v2 or 3v3 duel in a closed map that lasts 2 minutes or less.
It's not an opinion, but it's a fact. Alterac and SOTA do suck pvp-wise. So at least, I would like to have the choice about playing those or not. That's all I'm asking for, I don't want them to be deleted.
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They are more balanced in the way those BGs are designed...not faction win rates. It is that strategy is more important in those BGs than gear, because teams with lower gear still stand a chance to win by executing better strategy and be more coordinated.
Again not on topic...people behavior has nothing to do with BG designs, how often they pop up. They still can ignore strategy in WSG, AB and other BGs.
People might play BGs for many reasons, for me BGs associate with teamwork and strategy, and in BGs like WSG you dont have to coordinate raid and execute insane strategies to win, compared to AV ans IoC.
I have a feeling from this post, that it is another qq post - horde always lose, especially AV because they can not coordinate their raid well enough to win.
