Challenging Or Tilting ?!??? Raid and dungoen buffs

[troyzuwara]

hello there lordaeron players,

i just got my level 80 in lordareon and joined newly formed Guild that wants to build up, (Being Progressive) and i had few issue that made me Frustrated for sometime now, i have been reading the realm rules and Features more over and over for a while now, telling me self i might missed something that may change my mind up, But here is the thing, i didn't find anything that could convince me, then again i might of missed something after all,

But Discuss this , Buffing the Dungeons idea was made to force geared people to have abit more challenge clearing the dungeons , But then again when im like 187 ilvl average ( around 3k gearscore ) and i have to clear a dungeon thats buffed like 50% more health for bosses and mobs without increasing in "Rage" Time is just stupid, so whats my options ? , before i go deep limme switch to something else, Retail have some sort of mechanism for over Gearing, which IS Making it Less worthy. and Different levels of Difficulties , (Compare HOR,FOS,POS with TOC with anyother HC ?, Even the ilvl o loot is different and you can guess why ) their point was absolutely Clear, which is "If you are over Geared here is some other stuff to do) and leave the low stuff for low geared players , thats the retail, other servers made some sort of levels depands on average ilvl/Gearscore of whole party, for example party with 5k gs average will be even more difficult than 4k gs average one, Other server made an unlimited system which you will still Get Emblems of Heroism even During Trial of the Crusader content , But you will get the Conquest when you Clear Uld25, "unlimited Progression"


IM just saying all those things because they had a place for Low geared new players, But with those buffs that we got here ? Do we have place or we just need Boosting party?

and anyway How many people doing naxx right now ? and is it even worth it being through all those buffs just for the same rewards?
how many players that Needs the old unbuffed Naxx as Gearing raid are denied with those changes?
The only ones that doing naxx right now are Gear'd people that looking for achevments , Not the emblems, Not the gear,
hopefully you guys get my point. and i really wish to get an answer from Gm, where do low geared players stand with those kind of features?

[AnaheimDuck]

I have cleared all heroic dungeons with groups of 2.6k avarage GS and didnt had any problems so I cant understand your point Its not about geared people to have challenge its about 5 guys to work and contribute equally for killing the boss and not to be a walk in the park where 3 or 4 guys carry someone who afks during the encounters it can be done but not when every one in the group is freshly dinged 80

[troyzuwara]

you gotta be one of the badass's of lordaeron that we are proud of,
i can see a lot of your kind also as well, specially the one that constantly making Naxxrams Raids, (Hopefully someone will remember whats Naxxrams)

[AnaheimDuck]

Dunno what you consider badass from Lordaeron Im just someone who enjoys raiding and a wipe doesnt make me quit it makes me want to improve my performens so next time i can kill the boss tho you sound like one of the guys that want the easy time where you can just get free purple pixels

[troyzuwara]

i thought you will see how stupid you look at first comment but, you just gone even deeper, dude save the heroic atitude and stupid smile "enjoys raiding and a wipe doesnt make me quit it makes me want to improve my performens so next time i can kill the boss" this isn't our topic, but ok lets make this personal , you were playing in the realm since the beginning and you claiming you went through hc's with 2.6k gs, well it's being buffed since release if you didn't knew, it's not about hardcore it's about making gear'd players participate more ingame, ask your self why TOC isn't buffed? "pfft your hardcore skill is just blown now" or why nobody plays Naxx anymore?, i asked few people and i got same idea from them all, "naxxrams isn't worth it's trouble" so Step aside with your phantasy dreams and let the grown up fix the problems eh?

[AnaheimDuck]

So mr grown up just to enlighten you up back when the server was fresh and there was no ulduar and toc everyone playing and aiming to raid had to do hcs with low gs i hit 80 whit around that number and farmed heroics over and over till i hit 3.6 so i can have a chance to raid the only 2 bosses that were not killable whit low gs group were Eck in Gundrak due to low enrage cd and the mushroom boss in AK due to bug naxx is not played atm coz you can get carried in toc or voa or uld by 20 geared guys thats why no one plays also the emblems from hcs and raids could net you gear way better than the one from naxx you have just missed the window when naxx was out deal with it now there are only achievment runs and from time to time some trinket farm

[Palatiini]

I don't even think dungeons are buffed bro

[linkoynn]

i thought you will see how stupid you look at first comment but, you just gone even deeper, dude save the heroic atitude and stupid smile "enjoys raiding and a wipe doesnt make me quit it makes me want to improve my performens so next time i can kill the boss" this isn't our topic, but ok lets make this personal , you were playing in the realm since the beginning and you claiming you went through hc's with 2.6k gs, well it's being buffed since release if you didn't knew, it's not about hardcore it's about making gear'd players participate more ingame, ask your self why TOC isn't buffed? "pfft your hardcore skill is just blown now" or why nobody plays Naxx anymore?, i asked few people and i got same idea from them all, "naxxrams isn't worth it's trouble" so Step aside with your phantasy dreams and let the grown up fix the problems eh?

Less than a week ago i got fresh 80 tank and tanked everything except cos with 2.5k gs (easily reached dungeon cap with 3 20gold crafted pieces and hol normal trink) , majority being with random groups.

[zway]

heroic dungeons are not buffed you *****

[nmanhkien]

heroic dungeons are not buffed you *****

At Lordaeron, hc dungeon dont get nerf as ICC.

[ghostdogbg]

dungeons are not buffed farmed emblems with 3k gs party today just GIT GUD