Kicked out of the raid for trying to defend myself
Hey! I joined a pug today, icc 25N, as an ele shammy.
Everything went smoothly, we reached Vali - when the RL asked me to switch to resto - said NP. He asked me and the other rShaman to stack on the pala marked with square, inside the portals. So I did, but I noticed the pala is a bit too quick, so I was having a tad of a difficult time stacking with him before I reached him initially. Meanwhile - the other shaman is going the other way, not stacking - so we lose 50% of the stacks. I notice the RL shouting my name in caps - “Stack with the pala you *****” and I’m typing in the raid chat “I am stacking, the other shaman isn’t”. I think to myself - probably they misread my name since both of our names began with the letter T. We enter the portals again - the other shaman is still not stacking - and I notice the RL blaming me.
The fight was over easily, since it was N. No harm done either way.
Then I just tell them that they must’ve contused me with the other shaman, and then they start to convince me that I only had 5 stacks at one point, so it must’ve been me. I tell them the reason for that is that the pala ‘escaped’ from me so the stacks were reset. They don’t believe a word I say - so I kinda said they must be blind to not notice me flying right next to the pala.
So I got kicked for being a ‘smart ass’ even after apologizing. Didn’t get reinvited to roll any of the loot from the prev 10 bosses. Worst thing is - the other shaman didn’t say a word, but I’m pretty sure he didn’t speak English, so he didn’t know he needed to stack.
So, my question to you fellow warmaners, do you think this behavior is ok and acceptable? I kinda lose the will to play on this server after such experiences.
I know I’m to blame too, for insisting them to see reason and give me the benefit of the doubt, maybe I should’ve kept my mouth shut and pretend I don’t know how to stack in a game I’ve played since 2006 (fml).
I submitted a ticket to the GMs with attached screenshots, but Idk if it will make any difference.
Has anyone had a similar experience?
Thanks!
I donated to get all of my gear so raiding does not really matter to me. Some players have insulted me by claiming that my skill level is low because I am a donator. I have been to icecrown citadel before, it is really fun. I play a tank and a healer.
IMO it looks like to me they kicked you because you were 1 too many shammy, ie: in ordner to prevent you from rolling, to give the loot to their friends. so yeah i'ts ninja and should be ban.
There is a couple of things you can do to prevent that from happening again. one you do not play with random *****s. add people from good experience to your friend list, and play with them. two if you wanna pug, be the leader at least. three no need to argue with *****s, because no, they won't understand.
Hi everyone,
Thanks for your replies - it's nice to know you're not alone :)
I agree that pugs are risky, but as a married guy with a job, and a baby on the way - I don't see a way where I could let WoW dictate what I do and when I do, so that's the only reason I join pugs - e.g. whenever I'm free and feel like playing. Are there any 'chill' guilds out there that function in this manner, i.e. without scheduling raids, but just spontaneously organize them when more people are online?
Btw the RL was reported with screenshots, and one of the GMs told me that he'll look into it - so I hope that he'll get some juistice (even a few days of ban would be nice)
Thanks!
Cheers
Plenty of similar experiences. This isn't uncommon. There are guilds that exist that commonly throw raids together when they get bored. Especially larger sized guilds who have an abundance of membership or alts, or guilds that only have a 1-2 day weekly schedule.
However, hoping to get someone banned because they kicked you from a raid is nonsense.
Then I just tell them that they must’ve contused me with the other shaman
This is where you should've stopped. Whoever was right, keeping this useless conversation in a pug raid after two-three-four hours in a raid group, when everyone is tired and nobody values one another, is pointless. You won't convince anybody in anything, nobody just cares.