WotLK Any DK UH guide for PvE?

[hod135]

I was looking for a guide for UH DK for so long but haven't found one...
Can anyone help me out with that?

[Petko]

Here you go.

[Kemii]

Here you go.

Yes you just link him to a guide using Wowheads database so everything is WOD related....

We ask nicely Lynea might write one.. who knows.

[Beanlord]

I was looking for a guide for UH DK for so long but haven't found one...
Can anyone help me out with that?

Well if you ask something specific such as glyphs and talent choices as well as gear choices I could help you out but I'm not that well versed in unholy as I am in frost.

[Diemtee]

I was looking for a guide for UH DK for so long but haven't found one...
Can anyone help me out with that?

Well, I can give you a few short pointers. Unholy is messed up ath this moment, with your pets dying from a boss sneeze. In fights with any kind of AoE damage, your ghoul will be more dead than alive and garg was always made out of glass, now it's just meh. Still, it's a class and spec very much favored for the 2 end game fights, LK and halion, so even with this major bug, you will want an UH DK in your raid. I personally didn't even spec those 3 talent points for perma ghoul cause I got bored summoning it 10 times during one halion fight. You can check the spec I'm using here:
http://armory.warmane.com/character/...thwing/talents

Glyph of death&decay is there instead of glyph of ghoul, mainly cause my MS is tank and I don't dps as often but when I do, it's mostly in heroic rs. So it comes good for getting down adds faster. I believe I should replace Glyph of dark death, since it shouldn't stack with Morbidity talent but it did so on molten, I gotta check it out yet for warmane. Had over 500 talent tree respecs due to testing on DK prewipe, now I'm just too lazy.
Also on a note, some would say to take glyph of disease as UH and that maybe might work in some gear / talent combos but let's leave that discussion for some other time.

As for the stats, you need 9% hit rating and 26 expertise. Hit was always buggish on molten / warmane (molmane), that's why that 1% extra and even then, molmane... but they fixed expertise so now you actually do need to cap it (although as UH DKs, we could cut some off but this too for some other time). After that strength is your best bet, followed by haste and crit, arp being the last on the list. So keep those in mind when getting new gear.

Gem full strength with 1 nightmare tear to cover for the 21 agility / 3% crit meta. Ignore all socket bonuses except the head but that's red socket so you can't miss anyway. You can use the nigtmare tear on chest for example.

[Beanlord]

DMT they also fixed hit so you need 8% for melee specials, not 9. And expertise cap (for dodges) at the moment is 22.

[Diemtee]

At 22 my plague strike often gets dodged / parried. No idea why cause it's only with that skill: bs, ss, ds, all go through normal. You might be right on hit part but I didn't take much notice of recount on my DK for a while now. :D

Edit: And on my paladin, if I'm under 26 expertise, I get dodges from time to time.

[Beanlord]

At 22 my plague strike often gets dodged / parried. No idea why cause it's only with that skill: bs, ss, ds, all go through normal. You might be right on hit part but I didn't take much notice of recount on my DK for a while now. :D

Edit: And on my paladin, if I'm under 26 expertise, I get dodges from time to time.

http://i.imgur.com/8x0ZdN1.jpg
2k hits convincing enough? I've shown my weapons so nobody thinks I've been doing the test with mithrios or any other exp weap (the weap that shares a skin model with Facelifter is a BVB [http://i.imgur.com/dkwrNi4.jpg] ).

P.S. There has been one fight where I've been dodged with 22 expertise and that is gunship, while tanking Ally/horde ship adds.

[Lynea]

Yes you just link him to a guide using Wowheads database so everything is WOD related....

We ask nicely Lynea might write one.. who knows.

Heh, maybe once I get my DK on Lord rolling. I need to have a handle on something before I can keep my mind consistent with it. Otherwise, I won't know what to write.

At 22 my plague strike often gets dodged / parried. No idea why cause it's only with that skill: bs, ss, ds, all go through normal. You might be right on hit part but I didn't take much notice of recount on my DK for a while now. :D

Expertise is a weird stat for unholy compared to any other melee dps. For any fight that has more than one target, expertise is actually quite low on an unholy DK's priority. Plague Strike itself has also had some strange bugs in the past, ranging from working on the spell hit table once upon a time, to bugging out when you hit a Shadow Priest while they're in Dispersion, doing a million damage. I'd do my research on my DK on Ragnaros, but it seems like a waste since 1) I'm going to be playing on Lord very soon, and 2) Rag&DW will be updated to Lord's core in the future, so writing a guide around un-fixed things seems counterproductive in the long run.