Make world pvp hardcore again on Lord

[Modinstaller]

So Lord is a hardcore realm, right ? I like that. I wouldn't be here otherwise.

How about making world pvp hardcore as well ? Let me explain my point :

All the time, there are low levels asking for help on global against players from the opposite faction who are camping towns. Mostly, lvl 80 players. Sometimes, there even is an attack on a capital. A rogue playing hide and seek in Ironforge killing people, a party of 5 pvpers attacking Stormwind ...

And I like that, because it gives me a reason to come over and have some genuine world pvp. You guessed it, there's a but. BUT, Blizzard decided in wotlk that players could hop in and out of battlegrounds and arena games without being teleported back to the queuing npc. And usually, the players who attack low level cities & capitals, well, they abuse that. When someone like me comes over to fight them, and in the event that they lose, before dying they get into their battleground / arena game, and then they come back full hp, and they just keep killing low levels in between, like that.

I, personally, dislike the changes that Blizzard brought to bg/arena queuing. I think they pretty much destroyed world pvp. I am very glad that there is no rdf here, because you used to be able to do that with rdf too. But now, you can't anymore. I think world pvp would get more interesting if you guys did something about this.

Now, I don't know what changes could be done that wouldn't hinder bg queuing. I suggest that, at least, for arena games, all the players get ported back to the arena npc. I also suggest that, to keep allowing players to queue for bg's from anywhere, you don't touch that, but you start banning people who abuse it.

Hope some people are also interested in this suggestion. If you are, please suggest your own ideas. I'd really like for world pvp to start being fun again

[Thydus]

You could simply modify the que with 'must be out of combat' to do it i guess. Not a bad suggestion

[Deathmastered]

Yet that can happen only once per 15 minutes - because they will either stay in the battleground or leave it, but then have 15 min deserter.

[Modinstaller]

For arena, they come back every minute. I agree that for battlegrounds they either have to get deserter or finish the bg, but that actually makes it worse, imo. Means you don't even know when they'll come back, could be in 2 minutes, could be in 20. Makes camping them bothersome.

@Thydus hadn't thought about that. Yes, good suggestion. At least it won't allow them to escape death that easily. Well, unless they're rogues, hunts, or night elves. But that's a start.

[chubchubpenguin]

I thought you cannot teleport into the battleground or whatever while you are in combat to begin with. Maybe that was different expansion?

[Modinstaller]

No, no, you can and I've seen it happen. People use it to evade world pvp all the time. At first I thought they were using alt-f4 but after getting on a horde toon to /who them I found out they were just entering battlegrounds. A -lot- of people do this, especially when attacking capitals, for example.

[MadPenguin]

An alternative: Make the "PvP->Disabled" flag WORK. You can't gank non-pvp NPCs, ganking non-PvP players should fix MANY griefs with Gankenstein and his monsters.

[Obnoxious]

An alternative: Make the "PvP->Disabled" flag WORK. You can't gank non-pvp NPCs, ganking non-PvP players should fix MANY griefs with Gankenstein and his monsters.

There's nothing to fix. You're playing in PvP servers, and that's how they work.

[Deathmastered]

This isn't a pve server.