BOE REServed raids

[sadatekh]

Hello peoples,
I want to open topic about this "BOE RES" ninjas who ruining ours gameplay. How long are gm's going to tolerate things like it? What is difference in taking item or claim first that i will take the item without any roll, without any sharing with others.
It's same as its forbidden to trade coins/golds out of store, but you will tolerate it IF someone claim that he will do it before he complite the trade? Can you see my point? Or is it OK to trade accounts or any other forbidden thing IF WE first openly claim what we are going to do?
Ninjas exploiting us, half of the servers are new players who do not even understand what is BOE RES, until its too late. So rest of us can just do 2 things, joining raids like it and be ninja-ed or become ninja and take items from others.

[Islingr]

the definition of a ninja is one who takes without telling in advance...

so people making raids like that aren't actually ninjas

big difference between telling in advance and giving people the chance to leave raid in search for a different one they would get BoEs on... or already get an ID for the raid and not get loot

[sadatekh]

Are you even read my post? I was more then clear about new players who dont even know what is BOE RES in the first place. We using so much gamer's terms in wow that new players are lost. And there is still other part of my post about IF claiming making things OK, then we should be able to trade coins/golds out of store too, just need to tell it in advance and its OK, if yours logic is true and my is false. Or if you going to steal from someone something, if you say it in advance ,that make you clear of charges that you are a thief ?

And ninja term is when someone take items without rolls/dkp or any other share method. When you take it for yourself without giving others chance to win that item. This ppls doing xD that. taking items without giving you chance to win it too.

[Obnoxious]

I want to open topic about this "BOE RES" ninjas who ruining ours gameplay.

They aren't ninja. The essence of the term is that something was stolen. Nothing is stolen if you're given warning that this or that is reserved. You are free to not join if you disagree with their terms.

How long are gm's going to tolerate things like it?

I can't speak for the GM Team, but likely for as long as Warmane remains.

What is difference in taking item or claim first that i will take the item without any roll, without any sharing with others.

Already covered: the difference is you being informed beforehand that if something specific drops, the leader will keep it or give it to someone specific.

It's same as its forbidden to trade coins/golds out of store, but you will tolerate it IF someone claim that he will do it before he complite the trade? Can you see my point? Or is it OK to trade accounts or any other forbidden thing IF WE first openly claim what we are going to do?

No, it isn't the same at all. If for nothing else, if you really can't see the huge difference, because we forbid and permanently ban accounts for one, while we have no issue with the other. Openly claiming you will do something doesn't makes you immune to our rules, and your comparison is between something against the rules and something that isn't.

Ninjas exploiting us, half of the servers are new players who do not even understand what is BOE RES, until its too late. So rest of us can just do 2 things, joining raids like it and be ninja-ed or become ninja and take items from others.

So you want people to be banned because, according to you, new players are incapable of asking "what does BOE RES means?" before they join? I have more faith in them than that.

[Ikspalii]

And ninja term is when someone take items without rolls/dkp or any other share method. When you take it for yourself without giving others chance to win that item. This ppls doing xD that. taking items without giving you chance to win it too.

Actually it looks to me that you're the one who doesnt know the "gamer terms". Even back in retail people reserved items, as long as they state that something is reserved GM's would do nothing about it.

[Gwola]

Hello peoples,
I want to open topic about this "BOE RES" ninjas who ruining ours gameplay. How long are gm's going to tolerate things like it? What is difference in taking item or claim first that i will take the item without any roll, without any sharing with others.
It's same as its forbidden to trade coins/golds out of store, but you will tolerate it IF someone claim that he will do it before he complite the trade? Can you see my point? Or is it OK to trade accounts or any other forbidden thing IF WE first openly claim what we are going to do?
Ninjas exploiting us, half of the servers are new players who do not even understand what is BOE RES, until its too late. So rest of us can just do 2 things, joining raids like it and be ninja-ed or become ninja and take items from others.

I can run a Gold DKP raid just for you , it's np . All you have to do is bring 50k + gold to the raid and we're in businesss .

[Bladebuyi1]

Do what I do, don't join a boe/primo res raid I get tons of people me asking to join their raids, I will ask if anything is reserved, if the answer is yes I say "not interested"

[SilverFlash]

Can't wait for the SM fix,then you'll see shards reserved too.