Burning Crusade Ret Paladin PVP

[deathkerrigan]

Hello friends i want to roll a ret palladin , but first time on it, can a newbie palladin get full geared on pvp? i was newbie at dk and now with 1 year experience at dk im 2k raiting in lordaeron but its a easy class for pvp , i dont know how the way to get the sets,offset,weapons pvp on tbc, u need good raiting to buy the items like wotlk? what i have to do to be a good ret pally at pvp in tbc , thanks in advance and sorry for the bad english!

[nakedman]

Just go to youtube and search for tbc ret pvp and you will a lot of videos on the subject.

[mal1234]

kamil 1-3 are pretty entertaining but old and dated

[deathkerrigan]

kamil 1-3 are pretty entertaining but old and dated

I dont know whats means kamil

[Vallismed]

Hello friends i want to roll a ret palladin

You think you do, but you don't.
Honestly, don't pick this class (or at least this spec). Ret are weak during tbc but it's not the major problem: this spec is 100% braindead, most of the time you sit on someone waiting for AA, there isn't any room for outplay, the challenge is all about timing 3 cd, you run all the time oom,...
Really don't do this.

but first time on it, can a newbie palladin get full geared on pvp? i was newbie at dk and now with 1 year experience at dk im 2k raiting in lordaeron but its a easy class for pvp , i dont know how the way to get the sets,offset,weapons pvp on tbc, u need good raiting to buy the items like wotlk? what i have to do to be a good ret pally at pvp in tbc , thanks in advance and sorry for the bad english!

Getting item is very similar to wotlk except you can buy low-level weapons/shield/OH with honor, rating required for arena items are a bit different and during S1 / S2 there isn't any arena rating requirment for honor off-set items.

[Skoobydoo]

Hello friends i want to roll a ret palladin , but first time on it, can a newbie palladin get full geared on pvp? i was newbie at dk and now with 1 year experience at dk im 2k raiting in lordaeron but its a easy class for pvp , i dont know how the way to get the sets,offset,weapons pvp on tbc, u need good raiting to buy the items like wotlk? what i have to do to be a good ret pally at pvp in tbc , thanks in advance and sorry for the bad english!

Ret is really good and can go high rating with resto shaman.sadly thats pretty much only comp that ret is good at.other down side is ret are hard class to pick up you need lots of skill and understanding of the game to get good results.thats why most people say its weak pvp class,which is not true at all.if you looking for a class that can push 2k right away and with low skill cap go warrior,war is pretty much faceroll at the start.later on however you will have to be really really good to win VS high rating teams as warrior.
other really easy to pick and really good PVP class is BM hunter.you mana drain people and 1 shot its very fun and you never have long games which is a plus in my eyes :D

[Vallismed]

Ret is really good and can go high rating with resto shaman.sadly thats pretty much only comp that ret is good at.other down side is ret are hard class to pick up you need lots of skill and understanding of the game to get good results.thats why most people say its weak pvp class,which is not true at all.

Ret/sham is pretty decent against dubble dps teams (especialy rm which is really common) but you will struggle against every half-decent rdruid setup. (@OP: and rdruid are literally everywhere during tbc, the spec is fun and god-like). This is a good setup if you don't want to rack your brain but nothing more. Again I strongly disagree with ret being hard to master. This is by far the most moronic spec of the x-pac, people say tlk's dk is braindead but it's nothing in comparaison to ret's tbc gameplay.

if you looking for a class that can push 2k right away and with low skill cap go warrior,war is pretty much faceroll at the start.later on however you will have to be really really good to win VS high rating teams as warrior.

There is a confusion between skill cap and skill floor here.

other really easy to pick and really good PVP class is BM hunter.you mana drain people and 1 shot its very fun and you never have long games which is a plus in my eyes :D

BM are not about mana drain. Better play a scatter/wyv spec if you want to play like that. BM is all about burst.

[Jakkre]

There are three things that I highly dislike about ret paly in TBC:
1) There is no talent to get SP from AP. A naked ret paly heals for the same amount like a BIS geared one.
2) Blessing of Freedom and Blessing of Protection remove ur current buff on the target which makes self buffing in PvP pretty much worthless.
3) Seals are magic effects and therefore can be dispelled/purged.

[Skoobydoo]

Ret/sham is pretty decent against dubble dps teams (especialy rm which is really common) but you will struggle against every half-decent rdruid setup. (@OP: and rdruid are literally everywhere during tbc, the spec is fun and god-like). This is a good setup if you don't want to rack your brain but nothing more. Again I strongly disagree with ret being hard to master. This is by far the most moronic spec of the x-pac, people say tlk's dk is braindead but it's nothing in comparaison to ret's tbc gameplay.



There is a confusion between skill cap and skill floor here.



BM are not about mana drain. Better play a scatter/wyv spec if you want to play like that. BM is all about burst.

i didnt say ret is hard to master i said its hard to pick up.you need to be really good at it to even start doing arena and get rating,as war you need lucky stun prock and 2 crits to kill.you may disaggree with me but ask any gladiator player will tell you the same.

Ret/shaman is not decent,its only ret comp and its really strong. they die hard because of all the def cd they have and they never go oom,+ the ret does insane dmg with WF totem.they have long games and win at the end with mana sustain.i said it early,ret look bad to people who dont know how to play him well.

BM is still far better then the other specs in season one.and yes you do play for mana drain vs other healer comps if you dont do that you play it wrong LOL. you mana drain casters aswell make Spriest or mage oom and watch him just sit there unable to do anything.

[Mercy]

Guys, just wait for S3 to play Ret PvP. It's extremely gear dependent to do anything.

[Vallismed]

3) Seals are magic effects and therefore can be dispelled/purged.

Sanctified Seals.

they have long games and win at the end with mana sustain

Mana sustain against mortal strike, wound poison, viper sting/scorpion pet, sl/sl?
Have you ever played ret/sham in you life? ^^

Ret/rsham is all about timing:
-wings + bl
-when your opponents can't peel (cc used or dr)
-when your target is low
-when you have trinket and freedom

No mana war, no insane tricks, no brain, no anything.

It sucks. Play something else seriously.

Guys, just wait for S3 to play Ret PvP. It's extremely gear dependent to do anything.

Why would it be better?

[Skoobydoo]

And then they dispell your wings and buffs ...if thats how you play Ret in TBC sure it does suck.
its clear that your way of playing ret is no brain no tricks no anything...

[Vallismed]

If they don't dispel they prolly have a god-like resto druid...
Ret's life is sad, and full of darkness... or dark and full of terrors. idk something like that.

Do you have something to say except "no you're wrong lol" ?

[Skoobydoo]

If they don't dispel they prolly have a god-like resto druid...
Ret's life is sad, and full of darkness... or dark and full of terrors. idk something like that.

Do you have something to say except "no you're wrong lol" ?

if you pop all cd vs dudu+war what will happen most lilkely is they will bash you then clone you,run away and simple wait for your wings to go off.after that clone your shaman pop cds and kill you becuase you cant hop or bable for next 1 min.ofc there is a chance you 1 shot the druid before that happen, but its 50/50%.aside of war druid almost any other comp can remove wings(hunters warlocks mage shaman priest all of them can dispell) and then you are left with 1 min debuff that prevent you form babble.
what you can do tho is keep seal of justice debuff on druid.keep warrior slow,sit druid,freedom yourself and wait for WF prock**** with WF prock can take 50% oh druid HP in single hit you can sutn him then and simple kill him.save your wings for after babble and babble if druid is about to die but he try to clone you.your shaman can simple keep warrior in slow and spam purge on druid.war cant fear you aswell shaman have tremor and if shaman is in fear you can HOP him to remove it.there is sooo muany things you can do as ret/shaman.
i think hunter+ resto druid is way harder for ret then war/druid.hunter cna dispel your wings and will mana drain you so you cant do dmg.on other hand you can sit him and not let him kite you your shaman can slow him and you freedom yourself all the time so you dont get kited.if you pop wings and you fail to instat kill anyone guess waht will happen? hunter will dispell the wings pop CD stun you bash on shaman+ clone and you dead.
you want tricks as ret paladin?how about you buff yourself with RF rank 1 blessing and then pop wings so they dont get dispeled right away?there is alot more plays like that you can do. vs dudu+hunter if they root you and you freedom yourself then hunter can dispell the freedom and conc shot you and kite.but you can selfdispel the root and save freedom for conc shot.all this it adds up and make the ret not simple class at all.
vs rogues you can sac at the start so you dont get sap,you can remove blind with hop.you can also swap weapons and relics for when you wanna heal or burst.you also need to know how to manage your mana so you dont go oom as ret.there is so many little tricks you can do as ret that people dont and then say " its bad class"

if you dont know exactly what to do as ret you never gonna get 2k rating.as same time as warrior you can simple use slow,mortal striker,Whirlwind and intercept.nothing else you will most likely get 2k rating.( ofc later on the season not at the start.)ofc to push higher as warrior you need lots of skills aswell.

[Vallismed]

if you pop all cd vs dudu+war what will happen most lilkely is they will bash you then clone you,run away and simple wait for your wings to go off.

Which part of "can't peel" is a problem for you?

after that clone your shaman pop cds and kill you becuase you cant hop or bable for next 1 min.

He can basically clone at EVERY moment, if you are scared to use the only cd that allows you to land a kill I'll have to lolilol you: lolilol
If you fail just equip a shield/healer MH and make love to pillars. It's Bop not hop btw.

ofc there is a chance you 1 shot the druid before that happen, but its 50/50%.

It's 99/1% if you never use your spells buddy (1% is for lag and disconnection)

aside of war druid almost any other comp can remove wings(hunters warlocks mage shaman priest all of them can dispell) and then you are left with 1 min debuff that prevent you form babble.

Yeah and priests are under weakened soul when they pop a shield so they never use this spell it's crap. Oh wait... NO. Again, if you are afraid to use your spells, you lose, it's as simple as that.

what you can do tho is keep seal of justice debuff on druid.

SEAL OF JUSTICE AGAINST DRUIDS????? WTF NEW META U GENIUS §§§§§§§

keep warrior slow,sit druid,freedom yourself and wait for WF prock**** with WF prock can take 50% oh druid HP in single hit

"most of the time you sit on someone waiting for AA" Exactly what I said...

you can sutn him then and simple kill him.

STUN HIM?????? WTF NEW META AGAIN, THIS GUY IS PURE GENIUS OMAGAD §§§§§

save your wings for after babble and babble if druid is about to die but he try to clone you.

Lots of insane tricks here.

.your shaman can simple keep warrior in slow and spam purge on druid.

OMGZZZZZZ

war cant fear you aswell shaman have tremor

REALLY? THAT EXPLAIN EVERYTHING OMGAAAAAAAAAAZ

and if shaman is in fear you can HOP him to remove it.there is sooo muany things you can do as ret/shaman.

YEAH SOOOOO MANY §§§§§ LIKE.... ABOUT 3 THINGS §§§§§ MAYBE EVEN MOAR §§§§§ It's BoP btw.

i think hunter+ resto druid is way harder for ret then war/druid.hunter cna dispel your wings and will mana drain you so you cant do dmg.

IMPOSSIBLE §§§ THEY CAN'T YOU ARE TOO POWERFULL

on other hand you can sit him and not let him kite you your shaman can slow him and you freedom yourself all the time so you dont get kited.

Yeah hunters are not melee so they kite. Something I don't know now? Maybe? No? Okay...

if you pop wings and you fail to instat kill anyone guess waht will happen? hunter will dispell the wings pop CD stun you bash on shaman+ clone and you dead.

He can do that to force your bubble, and doing it a second time to kill you, what's the difference? You can't kill a half-decent hunter without your +30% damage buff anyway ^^ Btw hunter's dispel is about luck.

you want tricks as ret paladin?how about you buff yourself with RF rank 1 blessing and then pop wings so they dont get dispeled right away?there is alot more plays like that you can do.

Is it a joke? Or autism? Literally EVERYONE ON THIS PLANET KNOWS THAT. How can you call that "a trick"???

vs rogues you can sac at the start so you dont get sap,you can remove blind with hop.you can also swap weapons and relics for when you wanna heal or burst.

Okay you want to make me sad, do you? Reiterate the answer from above.

you also need to know how to manage your mana so you dont go oom as ret.there is so many little tricks you can do as ret that people dont and then say " its bad class"

Every ****ing class in the game has to manage its resource.

Okay I'm done with you...