1. Primal Nethers TBC

    I just opened 10 boxes from daily heroic quests which requires 50 bg marks, the equivelent of 25000 honor.
    Didn't get a single Primal Nether. It's literally more difficult getting a single primal nether than getting a full piece of gear.
    Several are required for professions - Should it really take several hundred thousands of honor to acquire the amount you need? compared to the roughly 15k honor needed for a PvP piece.
    Seems a bit ridiculous.

  2. This has to be bugged. I opened 12 just now and also got 0 Nethers, before, a week ago i got like 5 Nethers from 8 chests. Lol

  3. Assuming that the drop rate from heroic chest is 1/5 (which makes logical sense as in regular heroics if everyone rolled need in the party this would be the %, although it could be lower):
    1 primal nether = 12500 honor (5 marks = 2500 honor, 1/5 chance of obtaining)
    Can we just get it in the shop for this price instead of gambling away all our honor on a s1 quality weapon? We cant upgrade for at least 5 weeks anyway cos of Nether Vortex bottleneck

  4. Can we just get it in the shop for this price instead of gambling away all our honor on a s1 quality weapon? We cant upgrade for at least 5 weeks anyway cos of Nether Vortex bottleneck
    No, the whole point is it not being guaranteed, much like if you were gearing with PvE.

  5. No, the whole point is it not being guaranteed, much like if you were gearing with PvE.
    I understand the concept but in practice it is jst an unreasonable amount of grinding for the quality of the item relative to the rest of the available gear. it also isnt in line with the rest of the PvE rewards; we are getting an item from every boss (although not always useful) from the quest rewards, while the same cannot be said for people raiding on onyxia.

  6. No, the whole point is it not being guaranteed, much like if you were gearing with PvE.
    I think that's a poor take.
    Not everyone doing PvE needs primal nethers - only the ones crafting gear. People that are herbalism / enchanting doesn't need them.
    Usually u'd form a group around this to farm them - perhaps u'd be one or two players that need the primal nethers - rest wouldn't.
    You even have the oppertunity to hard reserve them in PvE as a trade off for not rolling on gear. Takes no time to farm them in PvE.
    You can grab all the nethers you need in a single day... not the option here.

  7. I think that's a poor take.
    Not everyone doing PvE needs primal nethers - only the ones crafting gear. People that are herbalism / enchanting doesn't need them.
    Usually u'd form a group around this to farm them - perhaps u'd be one or two players that need the primal nethers - rest wouldn't.
    You even have the oppertunity to hard reserve them in PvE as a trade off for not rolling on gear. Takes no time to farm them in PvE.
    You can grab all the nethers you need in a single day... not the option here.
    The point is the overall PvP gearing process, not this or that specific item. People in Onyxia don't start at max level or with a bunch of starting gear or with a selection of vendors readily available, for example. It isn't an option for them

  8. The point is the overall PvP gearing process, not this or that specific item. People in Onyxia don't start at max level or with a bunch of starting gear or with a selection of vendors readily available, for example. It isn't an option for them
    Can they be made accessble through arenas then? no1 on blackrock actually enjoys farming all these bgs. Fair enough we have to farm it for the gear like the other server, but can mats like these then be obtainable through arena?

    Everyone is there for the arena. perhaps a dropchance in a case or something similar to what we've seen before on warmane?

  9. I believe the reason for a lot of the grinding to be focused on Battlegrounds is in two parts. One, the whole point of Blackrock having Burning Crusade and being linked to Onyxia is to boost the PvP population in Battlegrounds, so moving quests away from that would be counterproductive to said whole point. Beyond that, cheesing Arena matches is infinitely simpler than trying to fix a whole Battleground. You can spam how many matches in the time it takes to fill and finish one Battleground?

  10. I believe the reason for a lot of the grinding to be focused on Battlegrounds is in two parts. One, the whole point of Blackrock having Burning Crusade and being linked to Onyxia is to boost the PvP population in Battlegrounds, so moving quests away from that would be counterproductive to said whole point. Beyond that, cheesing Arena matches is infinitely simpler than trying to fix a whole Battleground. You can spam how many matches in the time it takes to fill and finish one Battleground?
    then perhaps make it a bg reward or something - the fact that you have to farm for weeks and weeks to get a single item is kind of ridiculous. i don't mind putting in the time and farming the item... but this just seems crazy. i spent yet another 50k+ honor and got 2 nethers so far. Personally i need 10. by the time i get another 8 it's probably already season 3. Did all 15 heroic quests yesterday got 2 nethers today i did another 5 and got 0. It just seems like such a freaking hustle and frankly a waste of time to farm your piece of gear. Surely that's not how it should feel. You're already keeping the bg system alive by us farming honor to literally gem, enchant, get off set gear etc. just make us able to buy it for honor currency or w.e... that will still
    incentivize your bg system or w.e the arguement is.

  11. For reference i have 120 badges of justice and just 2 primal nethers from all these heroics :)))

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